Well Done Rosie Duffield

I admire Rosie. Showing up Ks, AR and his close team who have no decency or integrity about them and a disgrace. Not one bit of shame about them, just greed and total distain for their supporters, mismanagement and reneging on every promise made.
Well done Rosie for your integrity and decency, it took great strength of character and ut will be recognised by those that share them.

Anniebach

Standing as a Labour Party candidate was brave ?

Thanks Anniebach for making this point. Rosie Duffield has been unhappy with the LP for as long as I can recall. She’s long claimed to be isolated, bullied and not supported for her views on the trans activist / women only space issue. Now she’s claiming to speak for others.
She was elected as a Labour MP in July. She will represent the constituents who voted Labour as an independent. I’m surprised no-one is suggesting this triggers a by election.

Iam64 It’s okay for Rebecca Long Bailey to stay on as a mp? No bye election trigger request for her?
KS is the problem- he needs to be recalled. Then the LP can move forward.

Quote Iam64 Sun 29-Sep-24 07:50:09
Anniebach
Standing as a Labour Party candidate was brave ?
Thanks Anniebach for making this point. Rosie Duffield has been unhappy with the LP for as long as I can recall. She’s long claimed to be isolated, bullied and not supported for her views on the trans activist / women only space issue. Now she’s claiming to speak for others.
She was elected as a Labour MP in July. She will represent the constituents who voted Labour as an independent. I’m surprised no-one is suggesting this triggers a by election.

Iam it’s baffling, a Labour Party candidate who was so against the Labour Party Leader yet she chose to stand again as Labour Party candidate, then resigns less than 3 months after being elected, this is brave !

Anniebach RD’s letter gives her reasons for resigning quite clearly. You have read the letter? It needs reading.

Let us hope there are other Labour MPs like RD who support Women’s Rights as she does. The LP has lost a principled member.

Iam64

Anniebach

Standing as a Labour Party candidate was brave ?

Thanks Anniebach for making this point. Rosie Duffield has been unhappy with the LP for as long as I can recall. She’s long claimed to be isolated, bullied and not supported for her views on the trans activist / women only space issue. Now she’s claiming to speak for others.
She was elected as a Labour MP in July. She will represent the constituents who voted Labour as an independent. I’m surprised no-one is suggesting this triggers a by election.

I am too, particularly as she is one of very few previously held Labour MPs where the previous vote share dropped considerably at the election, which indicates that she isn’t very popular with her constituents.

I’ve said before, I do think there should always be a by election when MPs change their allegiance, as they then no longer represent what their constituents voted for.

Casdon well there won’t be. It’s not in the rule book.
Shame that the current government also no longer represents what voters thought was on offer.

It's good to see an honourable politician of whichever party.

Is it honourable to stand as a Labour Party candidate then resign as a Labour Party MP less than 3 months later ?,

Anniebach. yes. Very honourable in the particular circumstances. Sleaze, treatment of the elderly, not changing the two children benefit cap. Hope more follow RD’s example.

Honourable for you ronib not for me

Who now, out of that shower of takers, is going to support woman only spaces?
It’s a real subject that needs addressing.

That's fine though isnt it. I dont tend to see things in terms of honourable really. I think some of the concerns in the letter will be the flaws that bring Starmer down. I dont think Starmer is going anywhere but generally most PM's tenure ends in failure, and it is often possible early on to identify what will be their undoing.

Thanks for suggesting I watch the Andrew O’Neill interview with RD. I am very impressed by RD.
Exactly what is the precise problem with RD Anniebach? A very measured, thoughtful and truthful young woman. And the LP can’t incorporate her in its government?
I am now very worried for the future of this country.

But it has been said , not the reason she resigned

It was an exceptionally brave thing for RD to do and it comes as no surprise to me at least that it took a woman to do it.

I think look at the bigger picture Anniebach. What is your precise problem with this young mp?

Anniebach

Is it honourable to stand as a Labour Party candidate then resign as a Labour Party MP less than 3 months later ?,

Yes it is, KS has gone back on every promise he has made, he chops & changes his mind, like he changes his very expensive boxer shorts!
We should have known what was coming, when he couldn’t describe what a woman is/ can a woman have a penis?
God help us woman.

I have just seen RD on Laura Kuesnberg,
she is an absolute hero in my eyes.

If only MP’s from all parties were to be so true to their convictions.

GG13 agree. RD is amazing.
Why are you thinking that the current government has any convictions? Apart from speeding tickets etc?

Spinnaker

Let's hope this is just the beginning of his downfall 🤞

Really? You think this would be good for the country? Look at how unstable we became when this kept happening within the last govt

This thread is pointless, it’s just feeding a need ,

Cossy yes it’s possible to be in government for 14 years with multiple changes of pm - bring it on.

ronib

Iam64 It’s okay for Rebecca Long Bailey to stay on as a mp? No bye election trigger request for her?
KS is the problem- he needs to be recalled. Then the LP can move forward.

No one has said that. In common with others, I think a by election should be called each and every time an MP crossed the floor or “defects” from their elected party.