Well Done Rosie Duffield

Galaxy

No it's pointless to you. That's different to it being pointless.

Absolutely, only pointless to those who disagree with her actions. It’s clear from this thread that many people feel that she has stood by her principles.
Not everyone does.

Mt61

Cossy- & government before that! Who took us into a war we did not need to be in, on the bases of lies

I’m well aware of Blair and his actions and did not support this.

AGAA4

Cossy yes the country is in a mess and KS has been handed a poison chalice but he is not endearing himself to the people by accepting freebies when many are struggling. The fact that he wouldn't say what a woman is speaks volumes too.

I’ll be honest, and speak as a woman, I completely support women’s safe places, but I’m utterly bored with hearing “Starmer doesn’t know what a woman us” if you said “Starmer expressed himself very badly and didn’t explain himself” I’d almost agree, but frankly it’s boring and tedious hearing this over and over and it really does have little bearing on anything.

Feeding a need

An excellent and honest MP that sticks to her principles. I hope many more will follow.

Does she really?
whitstableviews.com/2024/06/15/the-winds-of-electoral-change/

Starmer expressed himself very badly. That's another way of saying it I suppose. All in all and mainly because he has accepted gifts for clothes and glasses when people are worrying about fuel bills I am very disappointed in Starmer and I am not supporter of the Tories.

Correct reference
whitstableviews.com/2024/06/15/the-winds-of-electoral-change/

Maybe a need is being fed here but the need is there to express that many of us do not agree with what the Labour government are doing. Taking money for clothing etc are minor things. There are more important policies at play here.

They are not a party for the elderly quite clearly. Kier Starmer actually said in his manifesto that they are a party for the workers. Taking away the winter fuel allowance is just a small part of it.
Pensioners have no powers and until I can see provision being made for care of the elderly I cannot support the Labour government.

Well done Rosie Duffield.👏👏

I agree with you in many ways AGAA4 but believe the Labour Party has to fight its battles within the party by re-forming policies where we feel they are wrong, and that within 3 months of a new government thats where the battles belong.

What is her actual standing amongst Labour backbenchers? We might find out in coming days.

For further reference please google julie wassmer (TV producer) on Twitter who authored that article. She appears obsessed with RD and of course is retweeting activists such as India Willougby (lots of deeply homophobic views). I would be very cautious about the objectivity of that article. As I say I could find numerous tweets which say similar about Wes Streeting because if his stance on the gender issue.

Is it honourable to stand as a Labour Party candidate then resign as a Labour Party MP less than 3 months later?

Let's turn that around: Is it honourable to stay with a political party once you've discovered that they're as dishonest, grasping and destructive as the party they succeeded and who they spent 14 criticising for their dishonesty, greed and destruction? Personally I'd think it shows a level of integrity that hasn't been seen by any politician, of any persuasion, for a very long time. Interesting that what some see as integrity, others see as holier than thou.

Exactly Galaxy

I think both the Labour Party and it’s supporters were despite 14 years to prepare were badly prepared for Government.

They must have realised that after pulling the Conservative up at every opportunity (and rightly so) that they would be under the microscope now.

The PR is abysmal.

Sorry posted to soon.

Where are their advisors, what are their press officers actually doing?

Jonathan Ashworth I think is being touted for communications? But there’s a limit to what one person can do….

Absolutely Galaxy. It’s a viewpoint … just as RD’s letter is a viewpoint. Duffield’s resignation letter is no more ‘objective’ than that article.

We should therefore be no more ‘cautious’ about one than the other.

We each make our own decisions about the viewpoints that resonate with us as individuals. You have your view; I have mine🤷‍♀️

I've copied this extract from a post of mine on another thread.

I note not one single person has made any comment on Starmer launching his election campaign in Kent and not inviting the ONLY elected Labour MP in the county. Could he have made it any clearer that RD was persona non grata as far as he was concerned? He did however, just a few weeks earlier, make a great show of being photographed welcoming Natalie Elphicke (MP for Dover) to the party after she defected from the Conservatives to cross the floor, even though it was known she would stand down at the next election. Of course at that time nobody knew just two weeks later Sunak would declare that intention.

Starmer and many other Labour MPs have treated RD atrociously. Presumably the CLP could have deselected her if they felt she was such a terrible MP?

I know Rosie51

I think it’s a common phenomenon that when one’s party is elected to Govern that the PM reaches dizzying heights of sainthood to their followers, complete with blinkers, only to be knocked down PDQ.

It happened to the Conservatives (not PM Truss though) and it’s happening in the Labour Party.

Rosie Duffield: well done.
... she is one of very few previously held Labour MPs where the previous vote share dropped considerably at the election, which indicates that she isn’t very popular with her constituents.
Her vote share dropped, from48% to 41%, but her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.

I’ve said before, I do think there should always be a by election when MPs change their allegiance, as they then no longer represent what their constituents voted for.
Rosie Duffield will sit as an Independent and will support her constituents who elected her. She is not supporting Keir Starmer, who has not supported her when she said 'only woman have a cervix' which antagonised the LCBT and pro-Trans communities.

And Rebecca Long-Bailey is sitting as an Independent only because Starmer removed the whip for six months from her and six other MPs because they voted against the continuation of the cap on two-child only benefit.

Rosie Duffield is brave to have stood as a Labour MP. She received a great deal of abuse for her stance on Trans-women.

ronib

Jonathan Ashworth I think is being touted for communications? But there’s a limit to what one person can do….

And this shirt button is hampered more than most.

ronib

Jonathan Ashworth I think is being touted for communications? But there’s a limit to what one person can do….

He lost a safe seat, what does that show about his political instincts.

The Guardian has reported that Cabinet ministers are calling for Ashworth to join in the merry throng …. What does that say about their judgement? Of course it might not be true.

Although I am fed up to the back teeth with the Starmer bashing, I am beginning to worry that we have landed ourselves with another right wing Labour government motivated by self-interest.

Having read Rosie Duffield's letter in full, I am getting the feeling that we are in for a repeat of the Tony Blair years.
I shudder when I remember the WMDs, the abolition of university grants and the systematic outsourcing of the NHS under Blair and that is just what I can remember off-hand.

Will we ever get a proper left wing government whose guiding aim is to serve the best interests of the electorate and actually strive for a fairer society?

The country didn’t want a left wing government , Corbyn lost the 2019election with the worse defeat since 1935