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boheminan Thu 03-Oct-24 18:52:32

Finally. New vote on assisted dying coming soon

What's your views?

OldFrill Thu 10-Oct-24 19:53:12

Assisted dying in Scotland is not legal. The courts say they would be unlikely to prosecute either someone assisting someone who voluntarily wanted to die, or assisted someone to go to Switzerland. This of course could be challenged by others, general public (trial by social media comes to mind) if others thought coercion was involved.
The bill that was going to go to the Scottish Parliament to clarify this grey area has been shelved as it supposedly comes under gov.uk jurisdiction not scot.gov.

Fleurpepper Thu 10-Oct-24 20:06:18

Esmay

If people want to use the new proposed facility - that is entirely their choice and I understand .

For me , as a Christian it goes against my faith .
I prefer to go when the good Lord takes me .

And that is absolutely fine. This Bill would be about giving people a choice, and a choice no-one would be coerced or forced to take.

I never said Assisted Dying is legal in Scotland. But there was a lot of discussion after the film about someone from Scotland going to Dignitas to die, with friends- and the fact that friends or family assisting or accompanying someone who is very clear about their wishes, would not be at risk of prosecution. Unlike in other parts of GB.

Iam64 Thu 10-Oct-24 20:12:43

There’s a lot of suspicion and fear about coercion. My experience of friends who live in countries where assisted dying is legal are thankful not anxious or suspicious. I don’t believe that it’s always right to extend life if there is no quality/no ability to do anything for themselves.

Farzanah Thu 10-Oct-24 21:52:58

Are any of them disabled Iam64?

I do not have any disability or suffer from a chronic illness (yet) but I think the fears of those who do, and are concerned about Assisted Dying are legitimate and should be listened to.

Have you seen Liz Carr’s documentary “Better Off Dead”?

Fidelity2 Thu 10-Oct-24 22:04:00

Who would perform the act of assisting to die? Would a doctor have the choice of refusing to take part?
I once witnessed a hospital patient with 70 percent burns on a burns ward. It was a known fact that she would shortly die. One would not leave a dog to die like that !..but who would perform the euthanasia ?

MissAdventure Fri 11-Oct-24 08:27:20

I'm sure a doctor could decline to take part.
I have known palliative care nurses to advise just increasing a person's morphine, and keeping them topped up, as the end approaches.

That makes perfect sense to me.

Fleurpepper Tue 15-Oct-24 19:11:33

Very exciting to hear that this will finally happen tomorrow

Private Member’s Bill on Assisted Dying: What You Need to Know

Recently, Kim Leadbeater MP announced that she will be introducing a Private Member’s Bill on assisted dying in the House of Commons. This is an important moment for people across the UK, particularly those suffering from incurable conditions, as it opens up the possibility of a new law allowing people more choice and control over how they end their lives.

Iam64 Tue 15-Oct-24 20:45:06

Farzanah - my friends mother was 93 and in awful pain/disability with osteo porosis. She decided she’d had enough. Her family gathered and spent time with her before her life was brought to an end. She was in control of this final decision on her life
I recognise not everyone has that privilege, the ability to decide but I feel strongly that appropriate safeguards are possible. The risks shouldn’t make it impossible for assisted dying to be available

Fleurpepper Tue 15-Oct-24 20:57:37

MissAdventure

I'm sure a doctor could decline to take part.
I have known palliative care nurses to advise just increasing a person's morphine, and keeping them topped up, as the end approaches.

That makes perfect sense to me.

Well of course they could. Or any other staff. The Law could request the patient to take the potion or activate the fast drip themselves, as in Switzerland.

Madgran77 Sat 19-Oct-24 14:25:28

Very good article in The Times today on this, by AN Wilson. I cant getnlonk to post and anyway you have to subscribe on line to read it. If you can read it online or can buy the paper it is worth a read

Labradora Sat 19-Oct-24 16:44:51

Smileless2012

I hope the majority vote in favour.

Me too........👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Grantanow Mon 21-Oct-24 09:47:59

I'm in favour of being able to choose but there must be adequate safeguards in the legislation and high quality palliative care must be made available at the same time so there is a level playing field. Wes Streeting: are you listening?