Finally. New vote on assisted dying coming soon
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(262 Posts)Excellent end of life care should be routinely accessible to all.
I have concerns around coercion.
I support assisted dying, but strong safeguards must be put in place before it is passed into law.
It will pass into law and be a disaster for vulnerable people.
I’m in favour of choice at the end of life but also have concerns that some could be coerced. Safeguards would need to be put in place.
I read that in one country where there is choice - I think Canada was mentioned - where the means to end one’s life was made available, in the end up to 60% did not take that option.
I think the option should be there.
Bridie22
I support assisted dying, but strong safeguards must be put in place before it is passed into law.
You’ve said it for me.
Yes, I agree with Bridie22 but why should MPs get a vote, surely it should be taken by us all?
I am absolutely in favour of it. Yes, safeguards would be needed to protect the vulnerable, but we should all have the right to die with dignity. We don't let our beloved pets linger on in suffering, so why should humans have to?
MissInterpreted
I am absolutely in favour of it. Yes, safeguards would be needed to protect the vulnerable, but we should all have the right to die with dignity. We don't let our beloved pets linger on in suffering, so why should humans have to?
Humans are articulate and able to communicate their wishes, animals cannot, therefore owners go on vets advice…
Medical assistance in dying (M.A.I.D) is lawful here in Canada. I had a close friend who opted for M.A.I.D. She had lived with a chronic illness since childhood which worsened over the years, requiring spells in hospital. She had lived a happy and independent life and always maintained she would never go into a residential home. At 82 years old her condition worsened and she landed up in hospital. Very frail but totally "with it" mentally. She had reached the stage where independent living wasn't possible and said, "CocoPops, I can't look after myself anymore more. I want M.A.I.D." (She had been considering M.A.I.D. for 3 months.) Once the arrangements were made, she was relaxed, seemed happy and
my good friend died at a time of her choosing with her family at the bedside.Of course I was devastated but grateful she had the choice.
sweetpea
Yes, I agree with Bridie22 but why should MPs get a vote, surely it should be taken by us all?
As in a referendum?
I don’t think so, I mean there was a total circus during the last referendum with lies and propaganda being put out there as facts, imagine how nasty it could get with those pro assisted dying going head to head with those against it.
MPs will weigh up all arguments and there will be a paper produced outlining the legal ramifications. Sometimes everybody and their uncle jumping on board doesn’t help.
I hope the majority vote in favour.
Smileless2012
I hope the majority vote in favour.
Me too x
GrannyGravy13
Excellent end of life care should be routinely accessible to all.
I have concerns around coercion.
Today 19:10 Bridie22
I support assisted dying, but strong safeguards must be put in place before it is passed into law.
Today 20:36 Galaxy
It will pass into law and be a disaster for vulnerable people.
These say it all.
But doctors have already implemented assisted dying under different guises.
My mum was still asking if I thought she was going to die, when the treatment was already leaving her unable to live.
They called it a pathway . . .
Those of us who have watched helplessly while our loved ones suffered a long lingering death will be glad of this vote being passed. I know both my parents and my sister would have chosen to have this option
I'm sorry but 'booking' your own death sounds like the stuff of nightmares to me.
keepingquiet
I'm sorry but 'booking' your own death sounds like the stuff of nightmares to me.
And to me but what also gives me nightmares is imagining I will suffer the kind of death I have seen my mum and others suffer and this scares me more.
Blinko
I’m in favour of choice at the end of life but also have concerns that some could be coerced. Safeguards would need to be put in place.
I read that in one country where there is choice - I think Canada was mentioned - where the means to end one’s life was made available, in the end up to 60% did not take that option.
I think the option should be there.
We have experience of this with relatives in Canada. My husband’s aunt was in her early nineties, she had always been active but in later years her mobility was limited, her eyesight was fading and she was having problems with her hearing. All the things she used to enjoy were taken away: walking, reading, puzzles, quizzes and dancing. She told us she prayed every night not to wake up the next morning. She applied for MAID and her application was granted, she was able to choose the time and place and who to have with her. She had time to say her goodbyes to her nearest and dearest and her two daughters were with her at the end. Soon after this my sister-in-law’s husband was diagnosed with MND, called ALS in Canada, he could have opted for MAID but chose not to, his suffering was very traumatic for my SIL and her husband’s family but it was his choice. I’m sure there will be safeguards in place and I hope the option will be there for everybody in this country who wants to end their suffering.
Sad subject. Don’t wish pain on anyone. I disagree agree with any path to assisted dying. There should be investment in powerful analgesic medicine, use of AI for medicinal compliance, not everyone is rational as we have seen with Brexit, people may be vulnerable to coercion and a speedy end may suit relatives. Mental health will play a big factor. Cognitive ability during intense pain can cause rash decisions.
Within Islam its a definite nono, the appointed time is set by Allah and the angels. Even when the angel of death known as Malaikul maut (malakh ha-mavet in Hebrew for jews) came to retrieve prophet muhammad’s soul the angel asked at the threshold of the noble home “may I enter” The prophet replied will my people be offered to question Allah’s judgment, the angel MM sought permission of Angel Jibril (Gabriel) who asked Allah the question, the answer was negative and the instruction came to MM to extract the soul. The prophet’s last words being Allah’s will is final.
Any suffering will wash away the sins for a better afterlife.
My last point is that politicians as we have seen are not to be trusted with people’s lives, they lie, cheat, bribe, cover up, party when a prince consort dies, they send people to illegal wars, they send arms to countries to kill and maim women and children. So the last thing we need is instructions on death from Starmer or any other politician.
I have always believed in the mysteries and sanctity of life and, having been the final companion to three people who passed away, I believe in heavy palliative care till the end.
I nursed my Mum for the last year of her life, until she went into a hospice, she had excellent pain relief and care throughout at home, my home and last eleven days in the hospice which was such a wonderful, happy place.
I also helped nurse my Granny 47 years ago, totally different scenario, stayed at home until hospitalised, died within 48 hours of being admitted.
Both savoured every breath, every second with family, every moment on earth, they held on didn’t want to die.
I appreciate this is personal, and we can only go on our feelings, but my spider senses are on high alert.
Is this an easy way, or dare I say cheaper way than good effective end of life care?
GrannyGravy13
MissInterpreted
I am absolutely in favour of it. Yes, safeguards would be needed to protect the vulnerable, but we should all have the right to die with dignity. We don't let our beloved pets linger on in suffering, so why should humans have to?
Humans are articulate and able to communicate their wishes, animals cannot, therefore owners go on vets advice…
I beg to differ. We have had Labradors our whole life and we knew when the time had come to let them go - we could tell that from them. Having witnessed both my mother and MiL die long, slow, lingering deaths from dementia, I would not wish that for myself or any more of my loved ones. When all quality of life has gone and all that remains is pain and suffering, what's the point in prolonging the agony? It's my life, I should have to right to choose to die when it has all become too much to bear - without fear of my loved ones facing any possible repercussions for helping me to do so.
I support assisted dying having sat with my first husband and my dad in their final days
People with religious objections should abstain. The bill is about choice. I don't want my choice denied by others' religious dogma.
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