How long will this continue?
No word yet from Yvette Cooper who insists “smashing the gangs” is the way to stop this. Hmm.
It’s been a while so I will start us off…….whats for supper and why?
How long will this continue?
No word yet from Yvette Cooper who insists “smashing the gangs” is the way to stop this. Hmm.
Gosh yes she really should have sorted this within days of forming government. What on earth do we pay them for?
They had 14 years in opposition to formulate their plan. They cancelled Rwanda on Day 1. Germany were delighted I bet as beneficiaries of that abandoned attempt at a solution to irregular migrants. I believe they are going to look into using the camp (at a discounted price).
Smash the Gangs
Stop the Boats
Meaningless sound bites, this Government had plenty of years to formulate plans, instead they are beginning to look like rabbits caught in headlights.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
They had 14 years in opposition to formulate their plan. They cancelled Rwanda on Day 1. Germany were delighted I bet as beneficiaries of that abandoned attempt at a solution to irregular migrants. I believe they are going to look into using the camp (at a discounted price).
Absolutely FGT2 Beggars belief that they couldn't hit the ground running- not like they didn't have enough time to prepare.
I think that with the state of the world that this is realistically the future for this country...
They won’t stop them. They can’t stop them. Smashing the gangs is never going to work. The only way is to turn the boats back to the safe country they have left. Like FGT had said they have had 24 years to develop a plan.
Well the last government had all the time they were in opposition to prepare and then 14 years in government.
Sorry 14 years not 24!🤦♀️
Babs03
Well the last government had all the time they were in opposition to prepare and then 14 years in government.
And every plan they came up with was thwarted…
People stopping planes taking off with foreign criminals preventing them from being deported.
Clergy giving lessons in Christianity in order for Muslim asylum seekers to get leave to remain…
Seems this is no easy task and because governments are short termist they just make impossible promises to the electorate to win enough votes to be in power for the next 4/5 years.
The home office is not fit for purpose, we need a new department that can tackle this problem effectively and humanely, the best working model would be to process refugees in Europe, but this would mean having a much stronger working relationship with EU members, and stopping illegal claims then and there whilst letting genuine refugees through. This means refugees would have safer routes, gangs wouldn’t have as much involvement, and there’d be no more tragedies in the channel.
Not my idea specifically, many have floated those idea before but it will probably take longer than 4/5 years so a short termist government will probs just apply a sticking plaster.
I think both sides should work together on this.
The plans were thwarted because they weren’t workable and cost us, the taxpayer, many millions if not billions over the years.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I think both sides should work together on this.
Yes I think there should be cross party cooperation with everyone entering into the debate and hopefully agreeing on a humane course of action.
But I won’t hold my breath.
Babs03
The plans were thwarted because they weren’t workable and cost us, the taxpayer, many millions if not billions over the years.
Are you saying that the U.K. should not deport/repatriate foreign nationals if they have committed crimes here?
The man that through corrosive substance at a women and her daughters, was said by friends to be a good Muslim despite having converted to Christianity in order to get leave to remain on his third attempt.
Through? I typed threw 🤬
The Tories accomplished what exactly??? They wasted absolute millions on unworkable methods. The world is so volatile with many many more refugees likely to search for a safe haven. The World in general needs to work together to make these peoples homelands safe which is no easy task.
GrannyGravy13
Babs03
Well the last government had all the time they were in opposition to prepare and then 14 years in government.
And every plan they came up with was thwarted…
People stopping planes taking off with foreign criminals preventing them from being deported.
Clergy giving lessons in Christianity in order for Muslim asylum seekers to get leave to remain…
Do you really believe that the government of the UK could have been thwarted by a few leftie lawyers and bimbling old priests?
I think not.
They did not come up with a cohesive ,transparent plan, they did not work within Europe, they preferred the Rwanda nonsense and todying to the rabid right wingers.
This is surely not party political. Both Labour and the Tories want to solve the boats issue. If it was easy it would have been sorted by now. Clearly it is not a simple thing to resolve.
eggplant a quick Google will confirm my post.
eggplant Last year a news report said that a man convicted of serious crimes was on a plane, to be deported to Kingston. Several passengers created such chaos that he was taken off the plane.
I cannot understand why the passengers trying to disrupt the course of justice weren't taken off the plane, and the court decision carried out. Someone with backbone was needed, but clearly wasn't around on that day.
LovesBach
eggplant Last year a news report said that a man convicted of serious crimes was on a plane, to be deported to Kingston. Several passengers created such chaos that he was taken off the plane.
I cannot understand why the passengers trying to disrupt the course of justice weren't taken off the plane, and the court decision carried out. Someone with backbone was needed, but clearly wasn't around on that day.
I remember that, what idiots those passengers were.
Blinko
This is surely not party political. Both Labour and the Tories want to solve the boats issue. If it was easy it would have been sorted by now. Clearly it is not a simple thing to resolve.
Not simple at all but KS could have at least tried the Rwanda threat to see if it helped the situation.Those who knew about it moved themselves to Ireland asap, expect they’re all back in the UK now.
Nonnato2
They won’t stop them. They can’t stop them. Smashing the gangs is never going to work. The only way is to turn the boats back to the safe country they have left. Like FGT had said they have had 24 years to develop a plan.
How can the boats legally be turned back?
If it could be done, it would have been done long ago! It was seriously considered before the Rwanda plan was developed and not viable. Surely we don't have to go through this non starter yet again?
Nonnato2
They won’t stop them. They can’t stop them. Smashing the gangs is never going to work. The only way is to turn the boats back to the safe country they have left. Like FGT had said they have had 24 years to develop a plan.
Exactly this and it pertains to any other country that has migration issues like the USA . We are privileged to live in a wealthy, peaceful country .
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