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The US Election.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 15-Oct-24 07:18:42

With only 3 weeks to go, perhaps we can start to watch the shenanigans taking place in the USA.

Trump is warning America of his intention post election.

“Donald Trump has provoked an angry backlash from Democrats after calling for the US armed forces to be turned against his political adversaries when voters go to the polls at next month’s presidential election.
In comments that added further fuel to fears of an authoritarian crackdown if he recaptures the White House, the Republican nominee said the military or national guard should be deployed against opponents that he called “the enemy within” when the election takes place on 5 November.
He singled out the California congressman, Adam Schiff, who was the lead prosecutor in the ex-president’s first impeachment trial, as posing a bigger threat to a free and fair election than foreign terrorists or illegal immigrants, his usual prime target for abuse.
Trump’s comments, to Fox News in response to a question on possible election “chaos”, triggered an angry reaction from Kamala Harris’s campaign, which likened them to previous remarks that he would be a dictator “on day one” of a second presidency and his suggestions that the US constitution should be terminated to overturn the 2020 election result, which he falsely claims was stolen by Joe Biden”.

Fleurpepper Sat 09-Nov-24 09:03:56

This ordinary man from the USA says it all. And explains why 'agreeing to disagree' just does not work in such situation

Well worth listening to.

www.facebook.com/share/r/19HqB1z6fX/

MaizieD Sat 09-Nov-24 11:21:31

He much more concerned than you realize, travel and investment restrictions on Russians, not to mention internal restrictions, do not make him popular.

He's not interested in being popular. He doesn't need to be 'popular'. He has the whole force of the military and the police behind him and he has captured what little there was of the democratic process.

MaizieD Sat 09-Nov-24 11:33:06

Fleurpepper

This ordinary man from the USA says it all. And explains why 'agreeing to disagree' just does not work in such situation

Well worth listening to.

www.facebook.com/share/r/19HqB1z6fX/

It's a good listen, but he's got it slightly wrong when he says that Americans have it good... Millions of them don't, even the blue collar middle classes. I'm seeing so many comments that the real value of wages hasn't increased in 30+ years. They were wide open to promises of improvement.

Promises which won't be fulfilled because Trump's economics (and those of his wealthy backers) will do nothing for those who are not already wealthy.

Fleurpepper Sat 09-Nov-24 11:35:42

Not sure he says that Amercians have it good- as you say. But comparing to the very dark periods of American history.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Nov-24 11:36:35

Apparently US Shares, BitCoin and the Dollar have all risen since POTUS Trump’s win.

petra Sat 09-Nov-24 11:45:16

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Farage admits that the UK is totally alone currently from the point of military security, and that we are now closer to WW3 thanwe have ever been before.

I am curious as to why you suddenly believe what Mr.Farage has to say?

It’s suits the narrative 😂

foxie48 Sat 09-Nov-24 11:49:46

The six richest men in the US increased their wealth by the equivalent GDP of a small country when Trump won. Musk alone saw his wealth by at least 20 billion dollars, so his investment in Trump is certainly paying off. These are the people who will gain whereas trade tariffs will increase inflation for everyone but will hit the poorest the most. So much for Trump economics.

petra Sat 09-Nov-24 11:53:55

I would think the first thing Putin thought of when Trump said he would pump, pump, pump was the price of oil.
If Trump follows through with this announcement the price of oil will fall dramatically.
Goodbye Putins main revenue stream.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 09-Nov-24 11:54:59

petra every cloud has a silver lining 👍

Fleurpepper Sat 09-Nov-24 12:03:03

petra

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

Farage admits that the UK is totally alone currently from the point of military security, and that we are now closer to WW3 thanwe have ever been before.

I am curious as to why you suddenly believe what Mr.Farage has to say?

It’s suits the narrative 😂

Which narrative? His for sure.

I don't believe a word he says- he is playing a disgusting game and has been for a long time- hell bent on separating us from our closest allies in Europe- and now blackmailing us to support Trump, lest we start WW3! A narcissistic opportinist of the highest (lowest) order.

We now face, and so does the EU btw, TWENTY % tariffs for all exports, just at the time we are having massive difficulties caused by Brexit to export to our nearest friends in Europe. And juge costs in importing stuff we can't produce here.

The addition of both the above is a disaster for the UK's economy- and all of us- for education, the NHS, Social services, etc, etc. And our military security- part of NATO but not at the top table and very much isolated in so many ways.