The US Election.

Nmama, best wishes from me too. I do feel for you as it must be very scary just now.

In 2016 a friend of DDs kept having his Vote Biden notice stolen from his front garden, so he put up a sign saying that every time it was stolen, he would donate $100 to the Biden campaign. It wasn't stolen again.

I worry also about who is pulling Trump's strings. If he goes certifiably mad, does Vance get the job? He seems even more scary as he seems to be saying what he says on purpose, unlike Trump.

I have very little sense of what he'd be like really, as he has swung from being a Never Trumper in 2016-20 to possible VP.

Is it just me that’s worried that Trump is going to ally himself with Putin in some way? DH thinks the same. He’s going to broker a deal with Putin in which Ukraine gives up territory and make himself out to be a peacemaker. Russia is pulling so many strings these days; I don’t understand why western governments aren’t awake to it, but maybe they are but can do nothing about it.

It can’t be just you if your husband thinks the same can it?

I was referring to people on this forum.

We should worry more about North Korea cosying up to Putin.
NK troops will shortly be in Ukraine fighting for Russia.
The awful Modi is another not to be trusted leader who sucks up to Putin.

MayBee70

I was referring to people on this forum.

Def not just you, its come up a couple of pages back as a major concern.

Sept 11th 2024

"Former President Donald Trump said if reelected he would end the war in Ukraine before his inauguration because he is respected by Ukraine and Russia’s leaders.

That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president

the Republican said during his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris on Tuesday. If I win, when I’m president-elect and what I’ll do is I’ll speak to one, I’ll speak to the other, I’ll get them together.”

“I know Zelenskyy very well and I know Putin very well. I have a good relationship and they respect your president, O.K., they respect me, they don’t respect Biden.”

this is from the Harris Trump debate, and a short video

www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-trump-promises-to-settle-war-in-ukraine-if-elected

Talk about hubris.....Zelensky his buddy?

North Korean troops are already in occupied Ukraine but are a major disappointment to the Russians as they keep running away! This was reported last weekend. With modern communications how can Putin not know this info is out already?

Donald Trump seems to have no idea about what friendship is. Right, Putin shakes hands with him and doesn't say anything when Trump is spouting off; Trump figures they must be friends and decides he knows Putin "very well." Trump wants to believe that people like and admire him--I mean, the people at his rallies do--and since he blurts out everything that crosses his mixed-up mind, Trump is incapable of imagining that Putin (or anyone else) is sitting silently and thinking "What a fool" and "He wants to play with the big boys--me, China--and will do ANYTHING I want him to. Great! Zelensky's toast!" I'd love to see the evidence for Putin not respecting Biden; Biden may be partly round the bend, but unlike Trump he's not a completely blithering fool and relies on information from capable advisers.

If Trump is elected and dies in office, we'll have JD Vance as our president. To me, JD Vance is a machiavellian little creep who is the vice presidential candidate because Trump liked him best--which is to say that Vance, hungry for power and fame, kissed up to him and made him think they're "friends." There's Trumps desire for friends coming in play again. Never mind about Vance comparing Trump to Hitler in the past. Just because of that comparison, I have no idea what Vance would do as president. But I suspect it might not be as bad as the policies Trump would unleash.

Trump has been cancelling interviews and events lately, and someone on his staff said that was because he's exhausted. I keep wondering what will happen if he has an entirely disabling stroke or dies before election day: he's an old confused man. (I'm an old woman, to be fair, but I don't think I'm as confused as Trump is.)

In Boston. Great handwritten sign that said “If Kamala can fix it - why is it still broken?”. 😁

Nmama I think Trump has been advised the less he says the better because he constantly puts his foot in it.

If he really isn't well I don't know what will happen! He'd hide it before the election as he he's invincible and will get better.

Correction: He think he's invincible.

If Kamala can fix it - why is it still broken?

Isn't it obvious - she wasn't the president. It isn't the role of the VP. They can make suggestions but it's not their call.

More interested in why anyone thinks Trump can "fix it" when we know what kind of president he has already been!

Trump has got this in the bag. The momentum is unstoppable and to make matters worse, the Democrats are panicking and resorting to the " Trump is a fascist" line of attack which is an insult to peoples intelligence and complete vote loser.

Looks too close to call

edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/politics/cnn-poll-harris-trump/index.html

Do people realise in September Trump called Kamala Harris a Fascist several times" No?

this video shows exactly how both sides have used the term
Its a 4 minute viewing with proof and context.

edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/politics/video/the-lead-donald-trump-kamala-harris-fascist-2024-election-jake-tapper

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Trump has got this in the bag. The momentum is unstoppable and to make matters worse, the Democrats are panicking and resorting to the " Trump is a fascist" line of attack which is an insult to peoples intelligence and complete vote loser.

I doubt it will be a vote loser, the Trump faithful will vote for him regardless but it is significant to those Republicans that are sitting on the fence because they dislike Trump and Harris equally. It's of note that more Republicans who held high office during Trump's presidency have come out in support of John Kelly.

Those of you following the election might already know this podcast. I've been listening for some time now.
I think it's always interesting.
It looks at focus groups (hence the name).

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-focus-group-podcast/id1586423406

General John Kelly - Trump’s former chief of staff has described Trump’s rhetoric as fitting the description of fascist.

The question now is whether Trump would in effect rule as a fascist dictator if he wins the presidency on 5th November.

Trump is undoubtedly pressing the nationalist button, and he is a white supremacist up against a black woman, which will appeal to the racists in the USA, of which there are many.

Trump does have a group of people who will run the administration for him, but if individuals like Bannon and other alt-right supporters get their claws into the White House then I think USA is potentially in real trouble.

The only glimmer is that most people with power in the USA are loyal first to the constitution, and we have evidence that they were able to stop Trump’s more outrageous plans such as bringing back torture, knee capping USA citizens by the military. (The reason for General Kelly’s departure from chief of staff). Trump is already threatening to close down TV news outlets which are known to be critical of Trump. Let us hope those loyal to the constitution will prevail if Trump gains the presidency, but it is by no means certain.

Tonight, (well now in NY)

In the Democratic stronghold of New York it is rare to see someone wearing even a “Make America Great Again” hat.

But today thousands of people dressed to their eyeballs in Donald Trump merchandise have descended on midtown Manhattan for the former president’s historic rally at Madison Square Garden.

Stalls lining the streets opposite Macy’s are selling everything from banners reading “I’m a Trump girl, get over it” to T-shirts with the image of the former president pumping his fist in the air after his first attempted assassination attempt.

9 more sleeps and Trump is going to win, bigly!

God above, I hope not. Whoever wins, the days after the election seem likely to be challenging to Americans. Let me say, for the record, that I love my country and admire many people from its history, and that I am proud to be the descendant of a man who spied for the US against German during World War II; as a consequence of work he and other agents did, more ships full of desperately needed supplies got past U-Boats and were able to dock in Britain. He was lucky to through the war; the work he did took great courage and selflessness, and I admire the men and women who were able to do great and selfless work for America and for the world.

I think that sometimes people who admire Trump imagine that those who don't do not care for our country or its traditions and its great heroes. Nothing could be further from the truth. My flag goes up on every national holiday and will be up on election day. God bless America, the United States, and the rest of the world. May peace prevail on earth and in our hearts.

"...Courage, endurance and enterprise..." and "May these qualities be yours as you grow up and join in the common effort to establish among the nations of the world unity and peace" - George R.I.

I have the sense that the press who, on the whole, are so against Trump, have encouraged his supporters so that they feel they are sticking their fingers up and are playing the part of daring rebels and true Americans. I sincerely wish the press would stop taking sides, it doesn’t help. The more they rail against Trump, the more support he gets. Reverse psychology.

Trump makes himself such an easy target for the media with his outrageous pronouncements and daft behaviour. They couldn't not mention it. If only the republicans could have come up with a sensible, respect worthy candidate and not this international joke figure.

What did happen at the New York Rally? More hate filled divisive rhetoric form a crowd who'd come from all over the country as its Trumps last bigly event. Trump hates New York of course, as it's strongly democratic and the home of successful prosecutions against him.

"‘There was certainly a dark tone throughout the hours-long rally, with one speaker describing Puerto Rico, home to 3.2m US citizens, as an “island of garbage**”; Tucker Carlson mocking Harris’ racial identity; a radio host describing Hillary Clinton as a “sick bastard”; and a crucifix-wielding childhood friend of Trump’s declaring that Harris is “the antichrist” - and much more divisive hatred.

More in www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/27/trump-madison-square-garden-rally