Will Messrs Reeves and Raynor Still Be Around This Time Next Year?

SaraC my thoughts exactly. 👍

Hopefully NOT!

I agree with your comment, Wyllow, we seem to be confusing which genre certain discussions should be put under on GN.
Maybe it is because the wording coming out from out from Keir Starmer is somewhat confusing too.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring clarification and this confounding befuddlement will disappear.

Hear, hear SaraC👏👏👏

I agree with Sarah

I shall be glad when we have an opposition so we can actually discuss politics and policy alternatives. A lot of this thread belongs under "chat'.

And me.

Me too.

SaraC

Can I ask what is going on here? Why has Keir Starmer become such a target for negativity and invective? It seems to have shades of a witch hunt. The duplicity and deception of the previous incredibly destructive Tory rule seems to have been forgotten. The man is only a few months into office - why has everyone taken against him when he won a landslide? For goodness sake give him a chance. Not all of his decisions are going to be popular but he’s hopefully heading in a direction which will ultimately help the UK get back on their feet. All this is sadly reminiscent of what happened to Barrack Obama and Jacinda Adhern - the right wing press really gunning for them and blocking a lot of really positive legislative change - the population then joining in a chorus of dragging them down. All are good people with strong core values and moral clarity who are/have been constantly hounded. I find it really scary that the spectre of Trump is hovering over the world at the moment - that really would be a signal for global devastation … maybe be careful what you complain about?

I agree entirely, Sarah.

Can I ask what is going on here? Why has Keir Starmer become such a target for negativity and invective? It seems to have shades of a witch hunt. The duplicity and deception of the previous incredibly destructive Tory rule seems to have been forgotten. The man is only a few months into office - why has everyone taken against him when he won a landslide? For goodness sake give him a chance. Not all of his decisions are going to be popular but he’s hopefully heading in a direction which will ultimately help the UK get back on their feet. All this is sadly reminiscent of what happened to Barrack Obama and Jacinda Adhern - the right wing press really gunning for them and blocking a lot of really positive legislative change - the population then joining in a chorus of dragging them down. All are good people with strong core values and moral clarity who are/have been constantly hounded. I find it really scary that the spectre of Trump is hovering over the world at the moment - that really would be a signal for global devastation … maybe be careful what you complain about?

Lesley60

In my opinion Labour got in on a load of lies, and false promises, he appeared to be a man for working people and was going to make us better off but so far he has made pensioners worse off and is now going to increase our taxes.
He said so many times when in opposition about pensioners having to choose heating or eating and look what he’s done to them, all when he and most others in his party are taking so much in freebies that they could afford to pay for.
Labour will never get my vote again

Ah! But what do you mean by "working people"?

Well, that kind of arrangement would probably be reported these days, I expect - depending on the age of the children, obviously.

Annma

For goodness sake give them a chance.People have very short memories- the last government were abysmal in every way.They wrecked the economy and we’re corrupt to the core,I cannot understand how anyone could still hanker after them. We need a government for all the people not the top one percent.

Head, hear! It is very sad that people have such short memories.

My grandmother worked pre WW2, as a dressmaker, from home until before outbreak of War when she and her husband ran a corner shop. Many women worked, but in close by cleaning jobs, shops and small local businesses or from home (the chain makers of Cradley Heath) while the older children or family took care of the younger ones. Children in those families were more self-sufficient then, they had to be.

For goodness sake give them a chance.People have very short memories- the last government were abysmal in every way.They wrecked the economy and we’re corrupt to the core,I cannot understand how anyone could still hanker after them. We need a government for all the people not the top one percent.

In my opinion Labour got in on a load of lies, and false promises, he appeared to be a man for working people and was going to make us better off but so far he has made pensioners worse off and is now going to increase our taxes.
He said so many times when in opposition about pensioners having to choose heating or eating and look what he’s done to them, all when he and most others in his party are taking so much in freebies that they could afford to pay for.
Labour will never get my vote again

I meant canvass of course …

MaizieD haha. I did point out the dangers of pavement scooters…

4allweknow don’t know where you live but some country folk do okay with a pony and trap?

I think, ladies, that we have a time traveller from the 1950s posting on out forum. 🤣

4allweknow don’t know where you live but some country folk do okay with a pony and trap? Alternatively I have nearly been mown down by adults ripping along on scooters. 2 miles on a major road without a footpath - well time to canvas your local council?

MissAdventure

Not pre ww2.
Just in response to the negativity about breakfast clubs.

I'm interested to learn who looked after the children of working mums and dads.

Do you mean in the 1950s/60s/70s or during WW2?

I think during WW2 many people lived near to where they grew up so perhaps like now, grandparents did the caring.

Not pre ww2.
Just in response to the negativity about breakfast clubs.

I'm interested to learn who looked after the children of working mums and dads.

Ronib, maybe you can cycle or walk everywhere but I can't. Don't even have a bus service I can access unless I walk 2 miles on a major road with no footpath. Would you like to show me how it's done?

We, as mother's, all do what we can under challenging circumstances.
I remember going to work with my mother too.

MissAdventure

Lots of people on here have said that their mothers worked, as did they.

As I wasn't alive pre WW2, and probably a good many of us weren't, then those working mothers weren't 'pre WW2'.