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Just saw Farage over in America.

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Lovetopaint037 Wed 06-Nov-24 18:49:28

He said he was ready to serve. So okay but doesn’t he have a job at the moment? How pleased are his constituents at the moment? How much time does he give them?

Wyllow3 Thu 07-Nov-24 11:29:58

That's a local council election not an MP.

I agree about wanting to end the war Ronib but doubt a Trump solution. Nodoubt it will be on NATO minds in the coming months.

Wyllow3 Thu 07-Nov-24 11:37:07

Sorry Boz you had spotted it not being an MP.

I doubt Farage will ever be a decent constituency MP. Between regular GB news commitments and fun trips abroad (funded by this or that "company" and security claims. - If he was in the LP he'd have been ripped to shreds by GN's not get a guest pass.

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 11:42:17

Wyllow3

Sorry Boz you had spotted it not being an MP.

I doubt Farage will ever be a decent constituency MP. Between regular GB news commitments and fun trips abroad (funded by this or that "company" and security claims. - If he was in the LP he'd have been ripped to shreds by GN's not get a guest pass.

Absolutely right!

But to be fair to Farage, he’s being true to form, he rarely turned up as an MEP.

He gets paid an absolute fortune for appearing on GB news and I’m not really sure how this show can ever consider itself impartial, when a serving MP (from any party) is paid a fortune to present regularly.

IMO, second jobs of this nature should be barred for serving MPs from any party.

Casdon Thu 07-Nov-24 11:55:53

Boz

My apologies. Council seat not Parliament.

Okay - it would have made more news if it was an MP I’m sure, despite the US election.

Wyllow3 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:22:09

If we look at the actual register of interests for Nigel Farage you'll see just how much he gets, and it includes an ongoing wage of £4000 a month from 16 hours of work a month.

members.parliament.uk/member/5091/registeredinterests

also BBC report:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l1kk9xqnyo

(he's vague on GB news payments)

"The total time Mr Farage estimates he spends on work outside parliament for his TV, video-recording and newspaper writing equates to around 72 hours a month, the equivalent of nine full working days"

Grantanow Thu 07-Nov-24 12:28:36

I hope he stays there.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:32:01

ronib

I am happy if anyone can broker a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. Too many young men are dying. All wars end some time and the sooner this stops, the better.
NATO has not covered itself in glory.

I’m with you on this ronib. At some stage ‘jaw-jaw’ has to take over surely? Too many young men have lost their lives in this 2 year war. America has given twice as much money as the whole of Europe combined. Trump knows how expensive it all is ‘and we have an ocean between us’. His stonking majority will allow him to concentrate on trying to broker a peace plan. Someone has to.

Casdon Thu 07-Nov-24 12:35:37

Fear not FriedGreenTomatoes2, I promise we will all be impressed when he resolves the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours like he promised he would. I wonder if it will be on his first , or can it wait until his second, day in office?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:35:53

And back to Farage … at least he’s not up in Court on an assault charge for decking one of his constituents. 😱 like some other MP.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:37:00

Probably his second Casdon 🤣 he’s got a lot he wants to tackle apparently.

GreyKnitter Thu 07-Nov-24 12:47:52

If he has been elected here as an MP to represent Clacton, for which he is being paid, then he should be in this country doing the job that he said he wanted to do. Taking tax payers money without doing anything to earn it.

Wyllow3 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:47:55

At the cost of losing the East of their country, the valuable Odessa region? The people of Ukraine who people nearly across the whole political spectrum in the UK agreed to open their homes and lives to to keep their sovereignty?

But this is no surprise to Reform Party supporters as Farage blames NATO

he said the West had provoked Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine

www.reuters.com/world/uk/support-farages-reform-uk-party-drops-after-ukraine-comments-2024-06-27/

People blamed Blair for blindly following the USA into Iraq: Farage, not surprisingly, is following Trump.

Fleurpepper Thu 07-Nov-24 12:50:39

GreyKnitter

If he has been elected here as an MP to represent Clacton, for which he is being paid, then he should be in this country doing the job that he said he wanted to do. Taking tax payers money without doing anything to earn it.

Indeed. Surely there must be a legal way to force him to do so- or withdraw and not get paid.

Is there truly no legal/political way he can be forced to do the job he was elected to?

Babs03 Thu 07-Nov-24 12:56:32

Farage likes all the hoohah of politics, the bells and whistles, not the hard graft of everyday political life. He has been elected leader of different but similarly inclined political parties but once he is threatened with hard work he resigns.
Was an issue with him seeing constituents face to face, he at the time said he couldn’t do it because of security issues and that Lindsay Hoyle had said it wasn’t necessary, but Hoyle denied this and says Farage must hold surgeries the same as other MPs including himself. But he has yet to do so.

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 13:00:18

Fleurpepper

As I understand MPs can either be de-selected by their own own constituency or suspended by the leader of their party!

As he’s the leader option 2 is never going to happen.

I cannot believe many of us are surprised at his oily creepy behaviour towards Trump, a convicted felon.

Babs03 Thu 07-Nov-24 13:01:58

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And back to Farage … at least he’s not up in Court on an assault charge for decking one of his constituents. 😱 like some other MP.

No.
But is this the standard now, or we allowed to judge politicians who haven’t hit somebody?
Does narrow the field somewhat.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 07-Nov-24 13:04:31

True Babs03 but it does add some context to the discussion at hand.

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 13:04:48

Babs03

Farage likes all the hoohah of politics, the bells and whistles, not the hard graft of everyday political life. He has been elected leader of different but similarly inclined political parties but once he is threatened with hard work he resigns.
Was an issue with him seeing constituents face to face, he at the time said he couldn’t do it because of security issues and that Lindsay Hoyle had said it wasn’t necessary, but Hoyle denied this and says Farage must hold surgeries the same as other MPs including himself. But he has yet to do so.

You are so right, he loves the publicity, the supposed power and the fame!

jasper16 Thu 07-Nov-24 13:07:05

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Babs03 but it does add some context to the discussion at hand.

It doesn't add context, it just adds more nastiness.

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 13:20:39

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Babs03 but it does add some context to the discussion at hand.

It adds no context whatsoever!

His actions (the LP MP), were/are reprehensible and inexcusable and has nothing whatsoever to do with Farage and his absences

BevSec Thu 07-Nov-24 13:25:09

ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.

👏👏👏

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 13:32:40

Casdon

Fear not FriedGreenTomatoes2, I promise we will all be impressed when he resolves the Russia/Ukraine war in 24 hours like he promised he would. I wonder if it will be on his first , or can it wait until his second, day in office?

😂😂😂😂😂

Wyllow3 Thu 07-Nov-24 13:33:02

BevSec

ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.

👏👏👏

*Actual current relationships with Lammy, as opposed to your version outdated version

"Though Jenrick has never met Trump, he maintains close links with Elbridge Colby

, who many predict will be Trump’s national security advisor should he return to the White House. The pair first met in Washington this February.

Colby made headlines for criticising former foreign secretary Lord Cameron’s “wildly incoherent” approach to defence.

However, he was impressed by current Foreign Secretary David Lammy’s “real effort to reach out to Conservatives and new-Right people” in the US and by his acknowledgement that Europe must spend more on its own defence while the US steels itself against China

www.politicshome.com/news/article/how-do-the-tories-deal-with-donald-trump

They will take a pragmatic approach, deal with who is in power in the UK.

Cossy Thu 07-Nov-24 13:39:13

BevSec
ronib

Nigel Farage is in exactly the right place at the right moment. The Uk desperately needs someone to improve Uk/USA diplomatic relationships - Lammy and Starmer having failed at the first hurdle.
👏👏👏

BevSec ronib

The statement above is simply incorrect, Starmer has already visited the US and met with Trump.

As for Lammy’s comments, they’re not so different to Johnson’s and he managed a “political relationship” with Trump, as will Starmer.

Farage is simply seeking publicity and I fail to see why it is any way acceptable for him to be in the US supporting Trump as a currently serving MP.

ronib Thu 07-Nov-24 13:54:48

Cossy I think it’s completely unacceptable and very disrespectful stupid and unprofessional for Starmer and Lammy to have gone public on their disdain for another country’s leading politician.