Donald and Elon: two immature guys running the entire US economy.

I think there is going to be a falling out. Trump will not let anyone really share the limelight, he never has and I cant imagine him starting now.

Trump has appointed a cabinet of some quite bizarre individuals (like Kennedy, vaccine denier, as Heath Minister)

If posters can spare the time, this article lists the appointments and their records.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/15/outrageous-appointments-donald-trump-anti-vaxxer

just a flavour of it:

"The proposed counterpart over at the Pentagon, set to be in charge of the mightiest, richest military in human history, is the weekend host of Fox News’s breakfast show, Pete Hegseth. Admittedly, he served in Iraq and Afghanistan – and as a prison guard in Guantánamo Bay

– but Hegseth has never run a whelk stall, let alone one of the world’s biggest organisations, employing close to 3 million people. His rank inexperience would be worrying enough, until you become familiar with what he believes.

He’s covered in tattoos, including symbols favoured by the Christian nationalist far right, among them the slogan Deus Vult and the Jerusalem cross, which celebrates the medieval Crusades when Christians earned their spurs slaughtering infidel Muslims and Jews. These days, he backs the ultra-right Jewish fundamentalists who seek to rebuild the ancient temple on Jerusalem’s Temple Mount, the site revered by Muslims as al-Haram al-Sharif, a move so incendiary it’s a byword for triggering holy war."

Yes mae give them a chance !
Anything would be better than this shower of lying TowRsgs we have got . Bleeding our Country Dry

I don’t see Trump and Musk “falling out”, Musk is an advisor either his ideas are put into practice or he will loose interest and go away to make more money.

He's not got a political agenda, he doesn’t care whether he is popular or not. Why he bought Twitter is a mystery to me, I guess he got bored with everything else, or maybe just because he could.

How can you say Musk hasn't got a political agenda? he consistently uses X to post pro Trump and anti our current govt posts.

Well - Matt Gaetz is out, off the list as Attorney General.

Just 6 days ago

Now, it appears, Gaetz will be at the frontlines of Trump’s efforts to bring the justice department to heel.

The department also investigated Gaetz himself.
Last year, it declined to bring charges over allegations he violated sex-trafficking laws during a trip he took to the Bahamas with paid escorts.

He was the subject of an ongoing ethics investigation in the House of Representatives into allegations of sexual misconduct, illicit drug use and misuse of campaign fund.

What's happened for Trump to lose his nominee? Several steps too far for the Senate and other leading Republicans.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99r2m4y2zro

"Losing his first choice is a setback to Trump and shows the reluctance of the Senate in ushering through a man who has no shortage of enemies in Congress.

The woman Trump has picked instead, another Floridian Pam Bondi, would seem to have more allies and a smoother path ahead"

This if course goes alongside Trump not getting his "pick" into leadership of the Senate, a good sign of some checks and balances.

Wyllow3

How can you say Musk hasn't got a political agenda? he consistently uses X to post pro Trump and anti our current govt posts.

Musk, like Trump, deals in transactional relationships. He is with Trump as long as he gets what he wants, which is reduced controls on his internet operations and limited control of his various businesses: those involving space and cars.

Trump will stick with Musk as long as X supports him and he can rub off some glory from Musk's businesses.

He has no more of a political agenda than Murdoch he backs the party that reflects his opinions and uses his media to promote them. He has been given the task of making government more efficient, I don’t see that as political, don’t we all want to eliminate waste in government.

I wish Trump was our prime minister, he would sort our little country out in a week.

The labour government are taking money off farmers but sending millions and millions of pounds to other countries to help with their farming. They have taken the pensioners winter fuel allowance off them but pensioners who are living in warm climates after emigrating still get theirs. They are giving free housing in hotels along with all the perks, mobile phones, food, free bus passes to illegal immigants but letting their own British born and bred citizens freeze, sleep on the streets and starve because of the high energy bills and taxes.

I honestly think this labour government do not like the British born and bred people and want our country to become a Muslim one.

You can source all this info online.

Wyllow3

How can you say Musk hasn't got a political agenda? he consistently uses X to post pro Trump and anti our current govt posts.

Don't know about Trump. But agree with his posts re our awful government. Who, let's face it, have no one who has ever run any business whatsoever, and it shows.

Cossy

Ladyleftfieldlover

Very succinctly put and I agree 100%, particularly re Liz “Lettuce” Truss.

Ha a name caller, still OK to do this from the left, but not from those who dislike our current Gov. We get lambasted re starmer the farmer harmer.

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write.

It's a case of "careful what you wish for" the winning majority of Americans wanted Trump. My DIL is an American. she is gutted he got back in.
I think Musk's placing himself to follow Trump as President, it's money that swings it in the USA sadly.

Musk isn't eligible to run for US president. He is South African isn't he? Certainly not a US citizen by birth.

I wonder if Trump's supporters would go so far as to let him overturn that requirement in order to enable Musk to succeed him?

Though I suspect it's more likely that the pair will have fallen out before then.

David49

He has no more of a political agenda than Murdoch he backs the party that reflects his opinions and uses his media to promote them. He has been given the task of making government more efficient, I don’t see that as political, don’t we all want to eliminate waste in government.

What Musk has said he will do won't make US government more efficient . It will totally destroy it.

But I doubt if he'll get very far with his plans.

I think "cutting waste" if done, if it can be done, has to be done with substantial political knowledge and great care because many departments run complex health, education, welfare related schemes that are based on a balance between federal and state.

. It's not like taking over Twitter and deciding who to sack, it's a big fundamental change of government. There is no way Musk has the experience or knowledge to do this.

If there is another world war, you can blame Biden & Starmer for that one, if you get chance 🙄

Surely NATO is in the thick of it too? Plus of course Boris Johnson? Mt61

What happens in the USA affects the whole world including the UK. Remember "no man is an island "

Mt61

If there is another world war, you can blame Biden & Starmer for that one, if you get chance 🙄

If there was one issue that had cross party support under BJ, it was Ukraine. BJ actively became the No 1 NATO pushing help for Ukraine (as I suspect you know very well) both weapons as well as taking refugees into UK homes.
But this has come up on 2 other threads, and this thread is about the Musk/Trump government and possible effects on it.

Meanwhile The Republican-controlled US House on Thursday passed a bill that would give the government broad powers to punish non-profit organizations it deems support “terrorism”

The bill, which gives the treasury the power to strip non-profits it claims support “terrorism” of their tax-exempt status, does not require the treasury to adhere to any evidentiary standard in releasing its findings.

Although groups targeted could appeal to the IRS or the courts for review, simply being identified as a supporter of terrorism could have a chilling effect on advocacy groups, critics warn.

It could be used on any group the government deems a “threat” however including groups that Trump defines as “the enemy within”, Ie Civil Liberties groups, charity groups

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write

I agree MOnica!

I agree with your comment M0nica NOT with TopGunner’s.

Wouldn’t want any confusion there!

I am so tempted to say to Trump supporters in the UK a similar thing the brexiters said to the remainers re the referendum.

If you like him and his cohorts so much, move there!

Already those that voted for him are finding they have made a mistake. They only now realise that, for example, Obamacare is the same as the Affordable Care Act and they could lose benefits. They didn't realise that tariffs would make the goods they buy more expensive. They don't understand why friends and family members do not want to associate with them anymore.

TopGunner

I wish Trump was our prime minister, he would sort our little country out in a week.

The labour government are taking money off farmers but sending millions and millions of pounds to other countries to help with their farming. They have taken the pensioners winter fuel allowance off them but pensioners who are living in warm climates after emigrating still get theirs. They are giving free housing in hotels along with all the perks, mobile phones, food, free bus passes to illegal immigants but letting their own British born and bred citizens freeze, sleep on the streets and starve because of the high energy bills and taxes.

I honestly think this labour government do not like the British born and bred people and want our country to become a Muslim one.

You can source all this info online.

I wish Trump was our prime minister, he would sort our little country out in a week.

Gosh, yes!
Every farm would be turned into a golf course.