Donald and Elon: two immature guys running the entire US economy.

LizzieDrip

^TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write^

I agree MOnica!

I thought these forums were here to give your point of view and that is my point of view so if you do not agree with it there is no reason to get nasty about it. It seems free speech has really gone down the drain. I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

TopGunner

LizzieDrip

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write

I agree MOnica!

I thought these forums were here to give your point of view and that is my point of view so if you do not agree with it there is no reason to get nasty about it. It seems free speech has really gone down the drain. I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

😂😂😂

Sorry, shouldn't laugh but yes, live and learn!

TopGunner

LizzieDrip

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write

I agree MOnica!

I thought these forums were here to give your point of view and that is my point of view so if you do not agree with it there is no reason to get nasty about it. It seems free speech has really gone down the drain. I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

No, this free speech in action. I think some people are very 'delicate' and see 'nastyness' where there is none and where, according to what I read is posted on the internet makes discussion on GN sound like a vicar's tea party.

Free speech is both the freedom to say what you believe and the freedom of others to challenge your views and say why they disagree with you.

discussion on GN sound like a vicar's tea party.

I disagree. Gransnet is getting much worse.

Allira

TopGunner

LizzieDrip

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write

I agree MOnica!

I thought these forums were here to give your point of view and that is my point of view so if you do not agree with it there is no reason to get nasty about it. It seems free speech has really gone down the drain. I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

😂😂😂

Sorry, shouldn't laugh but yes, live and learn!

Hi Allira,

Are these the type of posters that are regularly on Gransnet because if they are I don't think I will last long. I joined to give MY points of view but also be open minded enough to listen to other posters points of view but it seems that if my points of view don't agree with these types of people then they take their bat and ball home.

It takes all sorts, thank goodness I do not know them personally.

Well, I have always shown myself very willing to keep playing the game in a conversation with someone I disagree with.

I suggest you just have a good read around the political threads and make your mind up.

Perhaps better to start joining in on topics in "bits" rather than a post with huge list of topics (that do come up on GN) some very controversial, ending in a sentence that someone could have reported as anti-muslim.
(GN doesn't tolerate racism, but the moderators decide, not us)

(that was to T Gunner)

Grans net is like a vicars tea party where the vast majority are polite, from my viewpoint there is a lot of ultra liberal and emotional sentiment that is never going to be realistic.
Today all the nonsense about wanting a new GE is a pretty good example.

Obviously not many have been to vicars' tea parties!

Given that MPs are not replying to letters, what are the options of letting Labour know exactly how their badly thought out and poorly applied policies are doing? The petition for a new GE is a clumsy way of asking this government to listen. Fond hope! The petition runs until May 2025 - don’t forget to sign.

Over 1 million signatures and rising

M0nica

Well, I have always shown myself very willing to keep playing the game in a conversation with someone I disagree with.

That is where you I differ, if someone posts about something or other that I disagree with, I would never, ever tell them they are talking rubbish because that is their opinion and not mine.

Everyone has a right to post their views without being told they are talking a load of tosh.

Everyone has a right to post their views without being told they are talking a load of tosh.

No they don't. They have a right to post their views but they have no right to exemption from criticism.

M0nica

Well, I have always shown myself very willing to keep playing the game in a conversation with someone I disagree with.

Oh, MOnica. You won't play with me any more 😭

MaizieD

^Everyone has a right to post their views without being told they are talking a load of tosh.^

No they don't. They have a right to post their views but they have no right to exemption from criticism.

There are ways of disagreeing without being so disrespectful of others.

I like getting feedback - as it usually moves my thoughts on - or just reinforces how ahead of the game I am 🙃

TopGunner

M0nica

Well, I have always shown myself very willing to keep playing the game in a conversation with someone I disagree with.

That is where you I differ, if someone posts about something or other that I disagree with, I would never, ever tell them they are talking rubbish because that is their opinion and not mine.

Everyone has a right to post their views without being told they are talking a load of tosh.

I think it depends whether you disagree because of your own views/values, or whether you disagree because the other poster has said something which you know to be factually incorrect. We’re all entitled to express our own views on issues, but we shouldn’t lie, knowingly or unknowingly and expect to go unchallenged.

Casdon your definition of a lie could be somewhat biased?

Anyone can stand up and give their opinion, but if it is not then available to be questioned and agreed or disagreed with, you might as well talk to the wind, because eventually no one will listen.

I’m talking about facts though ronib, not opinions. There are often fact check articles, responsible news reports, statistics, reports of what exactly people said, etc. etc.

Casdon facts are not always truth. That’s the problem.

ronib

Casdon facts are not always truth. That’s the problem.

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Oh bless MaizieD now what has upset you?

ronib

Oh bless MaizieD now what has upset you?

The thought that you have a vote, ronib