Donald and Elon: two immature guys running the entire US economy.

MaizieD how do you know that? I could be temporarily insane….

Well, there is that to consider..

Or you just like having a laugh..

MaizieD

M0nica

Well, I have always shown myself very willing to keep playing the game in a conversation with someone I disagree with.

Oh, MOnica. You won't play with me any more 😭

Not that I am aware of.

The problem is that if a lie or distortion is repeated often enough it becomes accepted.

For instance the anti Trump campaign was so intense that most including myself and most of the media, predicted a close win for Harris, yet Trump controls both houses in the US. Even Obama didn’t manage that, just because an opinion is popular does not make it fact or true

just because an opinion is popular does not make it fact or true

Do you really believe that there are facts that aren't true?

MaizieD what a surprising comment!!

There are plenty of views and opinions presented as facts

TopGunner

LizzieDrip

TopGunner What a load of nonsense you write

I agree MOnica!

I thought these forums were here to give your point of view and that is my point of view so if you do not agree with it there is no reason to get nasty about it. It seems free speech has really gone down the drain. I didn't expect this on Gransnet.

Oh it's quite normal for some on Gn, I'm sad to say.
For goodness sake dont show your centre right proclivities by talking about free speech. 🤣🤣🤣

I am completely open to views on either side of the political divide, but I expect peopel to argue their opinions on known and supportable data.

I do have little time, I admit, for conspiracy theories and flights of fancy unsupported by evidence.

M0nica

I am completely open to views on either side of the political divide, but I expect peopel to argue their opinions on known and supportable data.

I do have little time, I admit, for conspiracy theories and flights of fancy unsupported by evidence.

I agree Monica. I wish more people did use data to support their arguments, it would certainly raise the quality of the debate.