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Netanyahu crimes

(247 Posts)
Macadia Fri 22-Nov-24 04:39:37

This is a very serious matter. How do you feel about the international community issuing an arrest of this man accused of crimes against humanity, genocide, starving civilians children and elderly disabled. Is he justified in responding to a terrorist group killing his civilians or has he lost his sense? Such a bad time with no foreseeable end to this terrible violence.

Anniebach Sat 23-Nov-24 11:47:52

Some Hamas leader ! Hamas has governed Gaza since voted in
2007

theworriedwell Sat 23-Nov-24 12:13:07

I think Hamas has/had more than one person classed as a leader. IDF seem to think the same as they keep announcing they've killed this that or the other leader.

Wyllow3 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:20:38

I think this diverts away from the big questions - the end game, the future of the region.

I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:21:10

I am old enough to remember the last war, and can;t help thinking how all us decent people would have done out utmost to save Jews and others from Adolph Hitler. In the case of genocide in 2024 the perpetrator is , like Hitler in his day, an international criminal . It's small step to make it official!

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:26:11

Wyllow, it is obvious that the American-Israeli complex will win . Nevertheless it is good that we criminalise the spearhead of the aggressive power aka Netanyahu.

When the American-Israeli complex has colonised the UK we will not be allowed to say one word against its fascist leaders.

Anniebach Sat 23-Nov-24 12:29:32

What terrorists wax Hitler saving Germany from ?

He wasn’t but let’s not stop yet another attempt to place full
blame on Israel, with the exception of our many Jewish
friends

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:33:22

And BTW, Wyllow, our prime minister has already mostly gone over to the side of the American-Israelli complex.

How is that for a 'Labour' party" Bad show!

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:36:35

Anniebach , Israeli is not the same as Jewish. Netanyahu wants us all to believe Israeli and Jewish mean the same . But they don't!

Wyllow3 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:40:24

I don't see thing like you at all Caleo.

I simply asked posters

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

Anniebach Sat 23-Nov-24 12:40:42

Israel is a Jewish state

Oreo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:40:53

Caleo

I am old enough to remember the last war, and can;t help thinking how all us decent people would have done out utmost to save Jews and others from Adolph Hitler. In the case of genocide in 2024 the perpetrator is , like Hitler in his day, an international criminal . It's small step to make it official!

Nonsense.
In any case Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor for the ICC is a member of the Muslim community so could be biased in this matter.

Wyllow3 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:43:45

Anniebach

Israel is a Jewish state

Yes, it is.

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

Babs03 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:45:06

@Oreo I doubt it.
There is growing condemnation from many non Muslims as well, and the ICC isn’t just one person.
That would be like saying that Starmer is biased because his wife is Jewish.

Anniebach Sat 23-Nov-24 12:46:16

Chief prosecutor for ICC is a member of the Muslim community? Such a surprise!

Oreo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:47:15

Wyllow3

I don't see thing like you at all Caleo.

I simply asked posters

"I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?"

I certainly don’t see things like Caleo either.
To answer your question, no I don’t think encroachment into the West Bank is a good idea and am baffled as to why Israelis want to live there.Limited incursions into it to take out terrorists when intelligence warrants it is another matter.
On Gaza, I can see the Northern half being kept by Israel as a buffer zone, but don’t know what will actually happen.

Wyllow3 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:51:00

Here are the current judges of the ICC, with full details of their experience and the country they come from, it is definitely not dominated by judges who happen to be Muslim. In most cases they have long and very widespread experiences.

www.icc-cpi.int/judges/judges-who-s-who

Babs03 Sat 23-Nov-24 12:56:48

Wyllow3

Here are the current judges of the ICC, with full details of their experience and the country they come from, it is definitely not dominated by judges who happen to be Muslim. In most cases they have long and very widespread experiences.

www.icc-cpi.int/judges/judges-who-s-who

And more importantly they abide by the law.
It seems that some think the ICC is as lax about the law as Netanyahu.
Easy trap to fall into I suppose.

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:57:42

Anniebach and Wyllow, Israel is not a Jewish state .Netanyahu want you to believe this as an excuse for his colonising aggression.

The Old Testament says it is wrong to steal and to covet other people's things. (Ten Cammandments)But Israel has extended its 1967 boundaries into other folks' lands and farms. Now Israel is colonising the whole Gaza strip and the West Bank. This is theft with violence, pure and simple.And nothing to do with Judaism!

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 12:59:42

PS and to Oreo too.

Babs03 Sat 23-Nov-24 13:00:40

Anniebach

Chief prosecutor for ICC is a member of the Muslim community? Such a surprise!

Were the lawyers in Israel who would have seen Netanyahu doing jail time by now also Muslim?
No, they were Israelis.
You can’t keep on with the same narrative Annie. Not everybody who is against Netanyahu is influenced by a Muslim/Muslims, especially those who abide by the letter of the law.

Macadia Sat 23-Nov-24 13:03:36

There is no end to this war. There is nothing for anyone to win. If there were a sense that was common - and there's not - the fighting would stop. If little children were in charge, this might be a safer world.

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 13:05:06

Oreo:

"In any case Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor for the ICC is a member of the Muslim community so could be biased in this matter."

No reason to believe a Muslim is "biased'"any more so than a Christian, Jew, or Humanist.

Caleo Sat 23-Nov-24 13:09:39

Wyllow:

"I simply asked posters

""I ask again, should Israel continue to advance into the West Bank expanding its territory until the West Bank is no more, and should they permanently occupy Gaza?""

True. but don't you see your simple question was bound to open the political Pandora's box?

Oreo Sat 23-Nov-24 13:09:43

Caleo

Oreo:

"In any case Karim Khan, the chief prosecutor for the ICC is a member of the Muslim community so could be biased in this matter."

No reason to believe a Muslim is "biased'"any more so than a Christian, Jew, or Humanist.

You are joking?

Oreo Sat 23-Nov-24 13:12:18

You do realise Caleo that the majority of protesters attending marches in the UK and other countries are from Muslim communities? They identify with Palestinians for that reason.