Petition demanding a General Election

Dickens

Lovetopaint037

All this petition nonsense does is to ensure that this country has bad publicity and will stem the likelihood of inward investment. At least there is an attempt to do something which wasn’t happening with the last government with all their ridiculous infighting and inability to elect a leader of any calibre. They got rid of Theresa May who brokered a credible deal with Europe and received respect. Went for the lies of a journalist comedian who had political ambition but not much else.

All this petition nonsense does is to ensure that this country has bad publicity and will stem the likelihood of inward investment

That's what worries me, too.

It will, of course, also give more ammunition to Elon Musk who is determined to foment discord in the UK - he seems to want a civil war (he'll be disappointed).

I agree. Wholly negative. With consequences.

Here was a chance to put put a petition that actually made positive proposals, whether we agree or disagree

- all it is is a one trick click moan which just makes us look foolish.

Oreo

So you agree that the language and attitude to GN members is ok?
Charming! It’s the sort of thing daft teenagers say.

No I don’t but in this very specific issues it’s absolutely fine to disagree with any democratically elected govt., and to be very dissatisfied with those in power, but however flawed our election system may be it is responsible for electing various parties across many many years.

IMO, it’s just plain daft to raise a pointless petition against a govt in power less than 6 months. Be patient, good things might yet come from this govt’s actions, and if they don’t we all will have a chance in four years time to vote them out,

Mollygrow- yes, I will never forgive those who knew how bad Brexit would be, but believed the result would be massively remain, they didn't bother to vote.

But the demographics have changed, so many who voted for B are now no longer with us, and so many youngsters who are totally against, were not able to at the time.

Fact is, over 70% are now clearly very sorry it happened and realise it was a massive mistake. Democratically, 8 years later, they should be able to change that decision.

Fleurpepper

The hypocrisy, and dishonesty of this is just unbelievable.

Since 2016 we have had SIX PMs, some of them voted in by a tiny weeny little group, and 4 different Brexit Deals.

And those Brexiters who proclaimed that voting on the above Brexit Deals would be totally undemocratic- and with the evidence that over 70% are now against. want another election 4 months after the last one, because they are not keen on the results so far.

Just un be lie va ble

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Fleurpepper

Mollygrow- yes, I will never forgive those who knew how bad Brexit would be, but believed the result would be massively remain, they didn't bother to vote.

But the demographics have changed, so many who voted for B are now no longer with us, and so many youngsters who are totally against, were not able to at the time.

Fact is, over 70% are now clearly very sorry it happened and realise it was a massive mistake. Democratically, 8 years later, they should be able to change that decision.

Whilst I completely agree with all you’ve said, imo, we simply cannot afford to re- join. We already had a good deal which many many people chose to dispute, so here we are!

The hypocrisy, and dishonesty of this is just unbelievable.

We've seen so far that this Government is hypocritical, because they immediately made changes for which they criticised the Tories when they were thinking of doing the same.

Some of their initial decisions are going to backfire as they will not stimulate the economy, they will have the opposite effect.
But it's early days, they can't be so stupid that they are not listening.
Unless they think "You turn if you want to. This Government's not for turning".

Mollygo

*The hypocrisy, and dishonesty of this is just unbelievable.*
is what many people think about the Labour Government so far, even Labour voters.

Re Brexit:
All the arguments in the UK (or from those not in the UK) don’t change the fact that Brexit happened, because not enough voted Remain.

Brexit was a result of complacency.
Voters who would have voted Remain did not vote; they assumed it would be a foregone conclusion.

Anyway, it happened, we must look forwards not backwards.

I am not sure that a general election in the near future would be a good idea.

Desdemona

I am not sure that a general election in the near future would be a good idea.

No, far too much disruption.

I don't think there is any appetite at all for an election with the public.

I know it was mentioned above, but Elon Musk using X to boost publicity for a UK petition disgusts me. Be very careful if you sign who you are *really supporting - his intention is to crash the UK*

Over 100 MP's from all parties have now joined the All Party Parliamentary Group for Fair Elections.. so maybe we will have Proportional Representation in the future despite Labour, on the whole, being against it..

All those saying they had to “suck it up” over Brexit. Don’t make me laugh! Starmer himself did his very best to get it overturned for 4 years and all his supporters have never stopped going on about it since the Referendum.

Primrose53

All those saying they had to “suck it up” over Brexit. Don’t make me laugh! Starmer himself did his very best to get it overturned for 4 years and all his supporters have never stopped going on about it since the Referendum.

We were told to 'suck it up' over Brexit. Some did as they were told, others didn't.

So, you take your pick.

You can suck it up that there won't be another GE for a number of years, yet, or you can go on moaning. At least you have the prospect of another vote. Unlike those who didn't want to leave the EU.

Starmer is going nowhere.
Get used to having some grown-ups around.

Wyllow3

I don't think there is any appetite at all for an election with the public.

I know it was mentioned above, but Elon Musk using X to boost publicity for a UK petition disgusts me. Be very careful if you sign who you are *really supporting - his intention is to crash the UK*

Give over😩

Mt61

Wyllow3

I don't think there is any appetite at all for an election with the public.

I know it was mentioned above, but Elon Musk using X to boost publicity for a UK petition disgusts me. Be very careful if you sign who you are *really supporting - his intention is to crash the UK*

Give over😩

Give over😩

... he's free to comment of course, but why is Musk so interested in what happens here - to the extent that he seems to need to keep a running discourse?

Why does he care what happens in our small island? Of course, we are a market for US Exports - over US$ 74 billion in 2023 according to the UN COMTRADE database, but apart from that, why is he continually plugging his narrative?

The petition will go nowhere but at least it signals a need for some sort of change in policies and that a large section of the population is not happy. Better than riots at least. As to Musk, it is really none of his business , equivalent to those stupid British Labour people going over to support Harris against Trump. I just hope there is no plot afoot to undermine your government and get Trump’s mates into power there. Could be, couldn’t it?

What exactly is a 'large section of the population' not happy about, nanna8?

Its in no way equivalent to the 100 people who went quietly to help out in local democratic offices, who did not give interviews or public comments.

Musk has a lot of power and he's trying to mess with us, unashamedly trying to steer the UK into a proTrump situation whatever the issue.

For those who support him, how would we feel in the UK if a French or German major politician (plus X platform) started up in the same way?

We'd be outraged, wouldn't we?

Dickens

Mt61

Wyllow3

I don't think there is any appetite at all for an election with the public.

I know it was mentioned above, but Elon Musk using X to boost publicity for a UK petition disgusts me. Be very careful if you sign who you are *really supporting - his intention is to crash the UK*

Give over😩

Give over😩

... he's free to comment of course, but why is Musk so interested in what happens here - to the extent that he seems to need to keep a running discourse?

Why does he care what happens in our small island? Of course, we are a market for US Exports - over US$ 74 billion in 2023 according to the UN COMTRADE database, but apart from that, why is he continually plugging his narrative?

Thin̈k he's Interested because the UK MP ,whatever her name is, wants a petition to have him brought her for "questioning". I really don't think he's that stupid as to come along, and be arrested at the border,
Barnier and Verhofstadt tried to interfer into the Brexit negotitions I remember well. No difference, and freedom of speech is an American right, unlike ,it seems nowadays, it isn't here.
Starmer is making g the UK a laughing stock, even India is commenting in their news. Easily seen on Internet.

I've just discovered Elon Musk is involved with this petition, The same Elon Musk who's involved with all the chaos in the USA. That made me suspicious to begin with. I'm also suspicious of the person who started this thread, particularly with a link included. Have nothing to do with it We've had an election. You may not like the result, I don't, but we'll have to deal with it. Politicians not keeping promises, that's nothing new. Don't you find it convenient that all this has started at the same time as the chaos in the USA?

There will be another general election - in 5 years time.
6 m people signed the 2nd Brexit vote petition - when is that happening?

Grandmabatty

This petition is fronted by someone who lives in Sweden and a huge number of those who apparently are in favour, don't actually live in Britain.

I quite agree Grandmabatty, here's a link explaining it. The right wing media has been going nuts because they are being asked to pay more tax. The tax system isn't fair as those with less money pay more. It will take Labour a while to pay the debts of the previous gov'ts huge payments to PPE companies etc.
But we are already seeing the benefits, there are no more dr's strikes etc & slowly our vital public services will be revived.

oops, forgot the link www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/truth-behind-general-election-petition-34187365?utm_source=mirror_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=main_daily_newsletter&utm_content=&utm_term=&ruid=f8813d3f-e942-4d3d-a87b-b40d25224e2c

MaizieD

What exactly is a 'large section of the population' not happy about, nanna8?

A massive section of the population is not happy, furious even, that the Tories have left the coffers empty, massive debt which is costing a fortune just for re-payment, and services all cut down to the bone and beyond.

For sure.

There is absolutely no case for a GE currently- NONE:

We have had 3 elections and 6 PMs, and 4 different Brexit deals. Several PMs were chosen by a minuscule proportion of one Party only, even.

As for Brexit- it was a fraudulent farce from day 1. Listen to David Davies explaining in 2006 how a Referendum should be run. Yes, it must be clear in advance exactly what people were voting for- and not even the Government knew it themselves

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