Farage's humongous hypocrisy re economic migrants!

What I fail to understand is how did so many people become multi millionaires?

petra

I see that Judybloom refers to escaping global control I’m afraid that ship sailed when the silicone chip was developed.

Yes, it does rather, especially if matters follow the path of the Cambridge article theorists (some might say conspiracy theorists)

The article proposes a whole number of possible scenarios where both state (as in some kind of tyranny unspecified as right or left) and individual "Actors" (as in Musk or similar)

have the possibility of various means of population control, (including planted chips in human beings) some scenarios are predicated on some kind of global disaster (climate or Covid type overwhelming the world)...

I could go on but I fail to see how Farage is somehow the saviour in this scenario, indeed, it stretches credulity to its limits, particularly since a state control situation could be far right?

Galaxy

Because they vote consistently for reductions in immigration and consistently dont get what they vote for. So when that happens people look to people like Farage.

Galaxy understood and gave the answer as to why some people like him on the first page.

He is very entertaining and a really good speaker which is more than you can say for the Labour lot. You wouldn’t want him to be PM but he is a good opposition speaker. After listening to him I’m actually starting to like him ( a bit ) . He certainly inspires hatred on here which is enough to make me see what he is about. Never seen so many nasty comments.

nanna8

He is very entertaining and a really good speaker which is more than you can say for the Labour lot. You wouldn’t want him to be PM but he is a good opposition speaker. After listening to him I’m actually starting to like him ( a bit ) . He certainly inspires hatred on here which is enough to make me see what he is about. Never seen so many nasty comments.

Because he’s a racist nanna8. And some of us don’t like racists.

I don't hate him, I think he's a manipulative clever "chancer" who likes to mix with the rich and powerful and I don't think he really cares about the people who elected him at all.

I greatly distrust his courtship of Trump and Musk and think he has every intention of trying to de-stabilise our country for political gain.

Politically he's in a position to promise much but not having to deliver.

Yes, he was an MP when he spoke at the conference GrannyGravy13, it was September 25th-28th this year

He was paid £40k for it!

I cant think of anything I could write that wouldn't be moderated about this greedy, self serving occasion - encouraging the people who could be paying their fair share of tax, the super rich, to avoid it, and picking up a nice £40k.

So much for the nice family man who is going to save us..... how can people defend him?

Wyllow3

I cant think of anything I could write that wouldn't be moderated about this greedy, self serving occasion - encouraging the people who could be paying their fair share of tax, the super rich, to avoid it, and picking up a nice £40k.

So much for the nice family man who is going to save us..... how can people defend him?

Hmmmmm….. Would I be correct in thinking you don’t actually like Nigel Farage? 😏

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

😏 True.

Parliament was in conference recess from 13/09/24 - 06/10/24

At leat he wasn’t missing from the H of P

Has anyone got a link to his speech? I would like to hear what he actually said, before condemning him (that doesn’t mean I support him by the way)

nanna8

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

Yes, you must have been asleep.

Wyllow3

I don't hate him, I think he's a manipulative clever "chancer" who likes to mix with the rich and powerful and I don't think he really cares about the people who elected him at all.

I greatly distrust his courtship of Trump and Musk and think he has every intention of trying to de-stabilise our country for political gain.

Politically he's in a position to promise much but not having to deliver.

You cynic!

He's going to invite Trump and Musk to have tea with him in Jaywick.

growstuff

nanna8

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

Yes, you must have been asleep.

He is not racist nanna8, its not correct to label someone as racist just because they do not want uncontrolled illegal immigration.

Lots of people don’t like him, and a lot even admit to hating him. Hate is a very strong word and not one to use lightly, especially about a person that you don’t even know.
I don’t like Starmer’s policies (up to now) but I don’t hate him. I don’t know him.

Upthread I meant to write that Galaxy explained why some people like him, I meant she explained why some people don’t like him.

petal53

Lots of people don’t like him, and a lot even admit to hating him. Hate is a very strong word and not one to use lightly, especially about a person that you don’t even know.
I don’t like Starmer’s policies (up to now) but I don’t hate him. I don’t know him.

Upthread I meant to write that Galaxy explained why some people like him, I meant she explained why some people don’t like him.

I despise him, along with Trump, Elon Musk and BJ.

I cannot hate them, as I do not know them personally.

The “having tea in Jaywick” made me laugh out loud

nanna8

He is very entertaining and a really good speaker which is more than you can say for the Labour lot. You wouldn’t want him to be PM but he is a good opposition speaker. After listening to him I’m actually starting to like him ( a bit ) . He certainly inspires hatred on here which is enough to make me see what he is about. Never seen so many nasty comments.

He is entertaining, well educated and a good orator, just like Johnson.

Neither are either MP or PM material and another trait they share is the ability to make people believe they really care about others.

I remember Farage’s shenanigans as an MEP and Johnson’s rather smeared career as a journalist prior to entering politics.

Neither are my “cup of tea” I’m afraid.

As regards Farage and racism, it is connected sometimes to irregular migration, but he does have a history of remarks, tho he is a lot more careful now.

For example during the 2015 general election, Farage suggested Muslims in Britain “lack British values” and described them as wanting to form “a fifth column and kill us”, and trying to “change who we are and what we are”.

On that famous bus he used for Brexit (quickly withdrawn, if memory serves), although the immigration concerns in Brexit were primarily about freedom of movement in the EU,

his bus used images of a long queue of Syrian (ie clearly Muslim) refugees to illiterate his point (even tho the ones in the image weren't coming to the UK)

(Illustrate not illiterate)

Whether or not any person is suitable to be an MP seems to depend on the writer’s own point of view. Since that is not actually a qualification, we need to look further than that. So are there any rules about who can be an MP? I’m afraid I’m ignorant of the answer to my own question, maybe others know, but I’m looking for facts, not points of view.

BevSec

growstuff

nanna8

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

Yes, you must have been asleep.

He is not racist nanna8, its not correct to label someone as racist just because they do not want uncontrolled illegal immigration.

Indeed it isn't, but that's not just what he wants.

petal53

Whether or not any person is suitable to be an MP seems to depend on the writer’s own point of view. Since that is not actually a qualification, we need to look further than that. So are there any rules about who can be an MP? I’m afraid I’m ignorant of the answer to my own question, maybe others know, but I’m looking for facts, not points of view.

I dont know, perhaps google can tell you?

petal53

Whether or not any person is suitable to be an MP seems to depend on the writer’s own point of view. Since that is not actually a qualification, we need to look further than that. So are there any rules about who can be an MP? I’m afraid I’m ignorant of the answer to my own question, maybe others know, but I’m looking for facts, not points of view.

I’m not sure there are any “rules” as such other than each particular party has to select them as candidates and their constituency has to vote them in.

I’m pretty sure if one is a convicted felon this might lead them to be disregarded by their own party.

I guess what constitutes a “good MP or PM” is a personal decision, for me tthe being honest, being inclusive, working and representing ALL people, being visible, understanding people’s needs and being fair.

IMO, the previous govt didn’t meet this criteria, and at this moment, the jury is out on Starmer and crew, I’m giving them time and 🙏🙏🙏🙏.

Btw, I’m still waiting for a list of Starmer’s many lies???

petal53

Whether or not any person is suitable to be an MP seems to depend on the writer’s own point of view. Since that is not actually a qualification, we need to look further than that. So are there any rules about who can be an MP? I’m afraid I’m ignorant of the answer to my own question, maybe others know, but I’m looking for facts, not points of view.

This is the guidance petal53. The exclusions for eligibility do not include spent convictions by the look of it.

www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/