Farage's humongous hypocrisy re economic migrants!

GrannyGravy13

Parliament was in conference recess from 13/09/24 - 06/10/24

At leat he wasn’t missing from the H of P

Has anyone got a link to his speech? I would like to hear what he actually said, before condemning him (that doesn’t mean I support him by the way)

Checked it out, GG13, no record of what he said exactly but this gives an idea of his reputation, it's a report on the NOMAD conference 2024 (it was straight after Reform Conference.) And includes references to and images of Farage.

short u tube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA8T29zWNCw

This is an MP who still doesnt hold constituency surgeries. which isnt a rule but a reasonable expectation?

Reform UK pays landlord £4k after tenancy row -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qdkv0k7xwo

could have been a constituency base? Very weird.

Thank you for the link Wyllow3

The billionaires and multi millionaires want to hang on to as much of their money as possible, no change there I am afraid.

I am not in favour of any MP having a second job, whatever party they represent.

I can only hazard a guess that he hasn’t done anything against parliamentary rules?

I wonder if these folks wishing to retain their £’s $’s and €’s still have companies employing people, if they do I hope the appropriate taxes are being paid.

That’s really interesting Casdon,
thank you.

So it looks as though a convicted murderer, who has served their sentence, could be an MP. That’s interesting. Obviously LH has done nothing like murder someone, but interesting that such a person (a murderer) could stand. Or even a terrorist. I’m going back to check the link, it seems strange. Actually interestingly I think prisoners who are serving longer than two years can’t vote either, I seem to remember that going to the human rights court years ago.

petal53

That’s really interesting Casdon,
thank you.

So it looks as though a convicted murderer, who has served their sentence, could be an MP. That’s interesting. Obviously LH has done nothing like murder someone, but interesting that such a person (a murderer) could stand. Or even a terrorist. I’m going back to check the link, it seems strange. Actually interestingly I think prisoners who are serving longer than two years can’t vote either, I seem to remember that going to the human rights court years ago.

Yes, I think they can petal53, as long as the conviction is spent. I also found this, which explains what happens if they are convicted of an offence whilst in office. Only if a sentence is over 12 months are they disqualified from their role apparently.
www.theipsa.org.uk/freedom-of-information/rfi-202204-09

GrannyGravy13

Thank you for the link Wyllow3

The billionaires and multi millionaires want to hang on to as much of their money as possible, no change there I am afraid.

I am not in favour of any MP having a second job, whatever party they represent.

I can only hazard a guess that he hasn’t done anything against parliamentary rules?

I wonder if these folks wishing to retain their £’s $’s and €’s still have companies employing people, if they do I hope the appropriate taxes are being paid.

I so agree abut second jobs except those that require a minimum number of hours to keep up law or doctor qualifications (they aren't substantial.)
Parliamentary rules do seem very sparse!

I cant get my own head into the really super rich begrudge taxes that might take a slice away but leave them still wealthy, and live in a society where they know there are food banks and people living on the streets but go their own sweet way -

....and perhaps explains why I failed to see an MP whose constituency includes Jaywick kowtowing to those super rich for personal gain.

Its a sort of moral thing. Just cant get it.

Cossy

petal53

Lots of people don’t like him, and a lot even admit to hating him. Hate is a very strong word and not one to use lightly, especially about a person that you don’t even know.
I don’t like Starmer’s policies (up to now) but I don’t hate him. I don’t know him.

Upthread I meant to write that Galaxy explained why some people like him, I meant she explained why some people don’t like him.

I despise him, along with Trump, Elon Musk and BJ.

I cannot hate them, as I do not know them personally.

The “having tea in Jaywick” made me laugh out loud

Just remember, he who laughs last…….. 😉

It aint over till the fat lady sings? 💁

Is this similar to the golden visa rules for multimillionaires from abroad who are given grace and favour by the government to buy up large pieces of land and whole blocks of housing in UK capitals which they then leave empty in order to launder dirty money?
I imagine their antics cost the country more when it comes to blocking affordable housing for British people.
Probably also mates with Nige.
But of course those at the top try very hard to scapegoat the powerless - poor migrants - so that nobody pays attention to the powerful and the damage they are doing to the country.

Galaxy

Because they vote consistently for reductions in immigration and consistently dont get what they vote for. So when that happens people look to people like Farage.

He can’t do anything about it either. Not sure what makes you think he can. Talking a load of tosh just because some people want to hear it is the easiest thing in the world, just visit a pub and listen to the two old boys sounding off at the bar.
That is Farage’s style of politics.
Fact is only when a government establishes close links with EU allies and tackles this collectively can anything change.
But then sadly Farage launched Brexit which is when the small boat crisis took off.
There is a connection there if you care to look for it.

I dont need you to explain Farage to me Babs bless you. If you were prepared to get beyond your anger you will see that absolutely nowhere did I say that Farage could do anything about it.
I have no idea why you would think I dont understand Brexit and its impact.

Galaxy

I dont need you to explain Farage to me Babs bless you. If you were prepared to get beyond your anger you will see that absolutely nowhere did I say that Farage could do anything about it.
I have no idea why you would think I dont understand Brexit and its impact.

Ah well, I suppose that’s what you call an assumption.
Apologies.

I’m beginning to be annoyed by the fact that, no matter what the subject, replies start turning into people’s personal grievances about what someone has innocently said. For example, in the above, the comment that it isn’t the Farage show was followed by someone immediately pointing out that Farage was the first word in the article! Can’t people just stick to the point?

And I do get angry about Farage, simply because he is just giving those who follow him a load of old nonsense. He is a publicity hound simply chasing the camera. Has never held any political post down for long, except for when he jumped aboard the gravy boat as an MEP.
I dare say his constituents have already given up on the idea of actually being represented in Parliament.

No worries. I was snappy there too
However in many ways in nearly all countries people are via the ballot box and in other ways expressing concerns about immigration. We s a society would do well not to.shout at those people but to have some reasonable discussion about the issues.

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

An interesting read NotSpaghetti, imho he is cut of the same cloth as Galloway, a man can be charming and talk until the cows come home but above and beyond that is a vain, shallow, and very unpleasant individual.
Am not sure reading this piece will convince diehard supporters though, they tend to have deeply held prejudices that Farage can appeal to every time.

Correction - a man who can be charming…

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Very worth a read. Some bits are shocking, too he was very young at the time, but its more the pattern of how he works with people/uses them and then moves on and re-invents himself that endures

Galloway was anything but charming.

growstuff

nanna8

I haven’t heard any racist comments from him . They must’ve have been when I was asleep. I don’t like labelling people without proof .

Yes, you must have been asleep.

practically in a coma!

IMO, Farage and Trump, must be in the public eye and be lauded as the men who will save the country. This is surely only what they deserve (in their eyes). They have a need to feel relevant because otherwise they are nothing.

They will say whatever is required to have their sycophants praise them whilst not caring about anyone else but themselves. It doesn't bother them that they con people who are too blind to see they are grifters.

Everything that goes wrong is someone else's fault. They play the blame game stoking fears.

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

I don’t agree with much written in the Daily Mail but have read some parts of it on occasion, have also read the Mirror, the Telegraph and the Times, though my go-to paper is the guardian.
I also watch BBC news, Channel 4 news, Sky news, and Al Jazeera.
Is good to understand why some people form certain opinions or have existing opinions shored up.
Oh and have to add various Jewish publications I have read recently to counter balance or chime with Al Jazeera on the situation in Gaza