Farage's humongous hypocrisy re economic migrants!

Babs03

And I do get angry about Farage, simply because he is just giving those who follow him a load of old nonsense. He is a publicity hound simply chasing the camera. Has never held any political post down for long, except for when he jumped aboard the gravy boat as an MEP.
I dare say his constituents have already given up on the idea of actually being represented in Parliament.

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Wyllow3

It aint over till the fat lady sings? 💁

Which just happens to be me!! 🙅‍♀️

Crossstitchfan

I’m beginning to be annoyed by the fact that, no matter what the subject, replies start turning into people’s personal grievances about what someone has innocently said. For example, in the above, the comment that it isn’t the Farage show was followed by someone immediately pointing out that Farage was the first word in the article! Can’t people just stick to the point?

That is the point!! 😜

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

BevSec I would read articles in the Daily Mail if someone linked to them.
I would then check out the facts though to make my own mind up about it.

Yesterday Bev this subject came up in the BJ thread, re reading different POV in newspapers, specifically the Guardian and you said (at 14.43 page 3)

"Yes you are right, its good to get other points of view, even if we don't agree with them".

I've posted this other thread, but I've been concerned about the lack of action by Farage as regards the Reform MP James McMurdock.

"Farage says Reform UK MP who repeatedly kicked girlfriend deserves ‘Christian forgiveness’
Reform UK leader said James McMurdock’s conviction for an assault on a partner was ‘a long time ago’

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-james-mcmurdock-reform-girlfriend-assault-b2655465.html

It emerged that Mr McMurdock was jailed 18 years ago for assault by repeatedly kicking his girlfriend, and he was jailed for it. He remains a Reform MP sitting in parliament.

BevSec

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

I'm stunned! Are you seriously saying that you only take notice of anything which reflects your own point of view? Is that because you can't cope with your opinions being challenged?

Wyllow3

Yesterday Bev this subject came up in the BJ thread, re reading different POV in newspapers, specifically the Guardian and you said (at 14.43 page 3)

"Yes you are right, its good to get other points of view, even if we don't agree with them".

Yes it is but I have attempted to read articles in the Guardian before and have not found them very readable or interesting.There are other sources to study apart from this one newspaper!

growstuff

BevSec

growstuff

BevSec

NotSpaghetti

If anyone's interested (Bevsec or nanna8 maybe) here's an article about him from the Guardian. It talks about his racism but not just that.

www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2024/jun/14/he-was-a-deeply-unembarrassed-racist-nigel-farage-by-those-who-have-known-him

Thank you but I dont read Guardian articles, in the same way I expect you would not tend to read Daily Mail articles.

Why don't you read them? The Guardian is one of the few newspapers which is still free online. The Guardian (and the Daily Mail) don't have some mystical powers to scramble your brain. Reading them won't change you, but might provide a different perspective.

Its because the Guardian articles do not reflect my views so there is little point.

I'm stunned! Are you seriously saying that you only take notice of anything which reflects your own point of view? Is that because you can't cope with your opinions being challenged?

As I have explained, I do look at other sources of information, I just dont bother with the Guardian as I really find it unbalanced

A big problem is the paucity of access to read nearly all newspapers online. Although Sky often carries bits of other newspapers a day or so after. It was so much better when we had open access to a variety of POV.

I dont think anyone expects everyone to regularly read a source they dont like or agree with, like I only go to GB news when directed there by a GN poster or it comes up on a google.

But if we are to discuss an issue on GN together and a poster gives a reference as a key point in a discussion -or to kick off a discussion as the O/P - why not read just that article so as to be able to join in?

I With due respect, what's the point in coming into a discussion just to de facto say, "I won't be reading the article and joining in?"

(The Guardian, btw, does carry news that is of interest across the board, sometimes quite critical of the government, it doesn't pull its punches)

I agree Wyllow, I like to read any media I can access for free because there are such different takes on the same issue, and I think that’s the only way of getting a balanced view about whatever it is. I do particularly enjoy the Express, it has me spitting in my cornflakes every morning, I tell myself it’s good for the soul!

Casdon

I agree Wyllow, I like to read any media I can access for free because there are such different takes on the same issue, and I think that’s the only way of getting a balanced view about whatever it is. I do particularly enjoy the Express, it has me spitting in my cornflakes every morning, I tell myself it’s good for the soul!

That is funny, spitting into your cornflakes! I read newspapers on the library app for free, as paywalls are frustrating when an article looks interesting!

Wyllow3

I've posted this other thread, but I've been concerned about the lack of action by Farage as regards the Reform MP James McMurdock.

"Farage says Reform UK MP who repeatedly kicked girlfriend deserves ‘Christian forgiveness’
Reform UK leader said James McMurdock’s conviction for an assault on a partner was ‘a long time ago’

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-james-mcmurdock-reform-girlfriend-assault-b2655465.html

It emerged that Mr McMurdock was jailed 18 years ago for assault by repeatedly kicking his girlfriend, and he was jailed for it. He remains a Reform MP sitting in parliament.

I'm quite cross that Farage intends to do nothing about this. If a Labour Party Male MP hd been uncovered as assaulting a woman and serving a sentence for it there would have been shock horror outrage demands for suspension, but it looks as if he's just going to walk away from it.

Wyllow3

Interesting (paid) connections between Farage and the company NOMAD

"WORLD’S #1 EVENT FOR GLOBAL CITIZENS
Spend four glamorous days learning the most up-to-date offshore tax strategies, wealth diversification strategies, and how to build your international Plan B. This is the one, can't-miss event to attend for actionable knowledge with 750+ like-minded guests from 40+ countries.

nomadcapitalist.com/live/

I quite fancied four glamorous days cigar tasting etc 🤔 so I clicked on this out of interest but is it a scam? I couldn't get rid of it and thought it might have b*ggered up my device!!

GrannyGravy13

Fleurpepper

So you would be happy for British citizen being able to buy other nationalities, in order to not pay due taxes in the UK?

How does facilitating such things make him 'a man of the people' and the 'farmer's best friend'?

If he was a speaker at one of the conferences before he was elected as a constituency MP, then it is his business, not that I approve.

If he is going to speak at the next conference whilst being a sitting MP then it should be a matter for the parliamentary ethics committee.

Yes 👏👏👏

Certainly a sitting MP should not be advising or even attending any conference on how to evade taxes.

Tax avoidance is different, many of us may do that perfectly legally.

I do not know Farage nor do I know Starmer, but I am going by the political views of Farage which are the same as mine, so if Farage can become the next Prime Minister then that will suit me fine. Starmer is sending Great Britain to hell in a hand cart.

Babs03

And I do get angry about Farage, simply because he is just giving those who follow him a load of old nonsense. He is a publicity hound simply chasing the camera. Has never held any political post down for long, except for when he jumped aboard the gravy boat as an MEP.
I dare say his constituents have already given up on the idea of actually being represented in Parliament.

Did he turn up very often when he was an MEP?

I've been trying to work out what or who he reminds me of and it's what my DM would have called 'a spiv'. She referred to our then neighbour as a spiv and he did very well during WW2, they then moved to a large house in a posher part of town.

Spot on Allira!

Farage is very ‘spiv’ like - wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

LizzieDrip

Spot on Allira!

Farage is very ‘spiv’ like - wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

And you trust Starmer? 😵‍💫😂

LadyInBlue

I do not know Farage nor do I know Starmer, but I am going by the political views of Farage which are the same as mine, so if Farage can become the next Prime Minister then that will suit me fine. Starmer is sending Great Britain to hell in a hand cart.

News alert 🥁
We have been in the handcart for some years, or hadn’t you noticed.

Shinamae

LizzieDrip

Spot on Allira!

Farage is very ‘spiv’ like - wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him.

And you trust Starmer? 😵‍💫😂

I was talking about Farage.

The thing about Farage is that he's plausible, enjoys a pint in the pub, blokey type, but he's not all that he seems.

I don't follow him myself.

Wyllow3

A big problem is the paucity of access to read nearly all newspapers online. Although Sky often carries bits of other newspapers a day or so after. It was so much better when we had open access to a variety of POV.

I dont think anyone expects everyone to regularly read a source they dont like or agree with, like I only go to GB news when directed there by a GN poster or it comes up on a google.

But if we are to discuss an issue on GN together and a poster gives a reference as a key point in a discussion -or to kick off a discussion as the O/P - why not read just that article so as to be able to join in?

I With due respect, what's the point in coming into a discussion just to de facto say, "I won't be reading the article and joining in?"

(The Guardian, btw, does carry news that is of interest across the board, sometimes quite critical of the government, it doesn't pull its punches)

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I find the Guardian a pretty good source of info, I would read the DM if it was very pertinent to a particular topic, back in the day the DM had some extremely good investigative journalism.

I also dip into Apple and SKY News online, occasionally The Washington Post and Al Jazeera, I really like to see a lot of view points.

For peoples information - yes, Farages attendance at NOMAD which suggests tax dodges and money havens and the £40k are very real, because if you go onto the government site to check MP's declared interests, its there.

To check any MP just type in the name and "register of interests. It's gives all Farages earnings in the media and Social Media as well and hours worked of interest to those who have doubts of work outside parliament particularly in the media. (pretty long list)

However, NOMAD

*Role, work or services: Speaking Engagement
Until: 25 September 2024.
Payer: Nomad Capitalist LLC, 2810 North 3rd Street, Phoenix, Arizona 85004
(Registered 31 October 2024)

Payment: £40,075.37*

Received on: 7 October 2024. Hours: 10 hrs.
(Registered 31 October 2024)

members.parliament.uk/member/5091/registeredinterests

so yes, he didnt just attend, he was a keynote speaker.