Overspend/under delivery by the former government confirmed!

Just OMG

couldn't he make some decisions that people want like get rid of TV licence don't watch BBC why do I have to pay for it

The TV licence isn't to 'pay' for the BBC. The licence is a licence to receive live television, from whatever channel.

The TV licence no more pays for the BBC than the vehicle tax pays for the upkeep of the roads. It's a myth and it's time that government came clean on it...

Shinamae

Liars and thieves and the current government isn’t much better..

I agree with you there. They are all the same, full of promises and smiles before elections, then a complete U turn once elected.

ronib

David49 I thought nuclear was being closed down along with oil and gas? In the Uk only that is.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg725xpxleo
Nuclear reactor just installed at Hinkley Point C a day ago.

There seems to be no difference between Conservative and Labour policies on nuclear power. Both support the current building of Hinkley Point C in Somerset, the planned Sizewell C station in Suffolk, an unspecified number of small modular reactors all over Britain as well as the far-off dream of nuclear fusion.
Guardian 27/9/24

Allira

ronib

David49 I thought nuclear was being closed down along with oil and gas? In the Uk only that is.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg725xpxleo
Nuclear reactor just installed at Hinkley Point C a day ago.

There seems to be no difference between Conservative and Labour policies on nuclear power. Both support the current building of Hinkley Point C in Somerset, the planned Sizewell C station in Suffolk, an unspecified number of small modular reactors all over Britain as well as the far-off dream of nuclear fusion.
Guardian 27/9/24

Just for once the Guardian accidentally printed the truth.

hear hear

David49

Allira

ronib

David49 I thought nuclear was being closed down along with oil and gas? In the Uk only that is.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg725xpxleo
Nuclear reactor just installed at Hinkley Point C a day ago.

There seems to be no difference between Conservative and Labour policies on nuclear power. Both support the current building of Hinkley Point C in Somerset, the planned Sizewell C station in Suffolk, an unspecified number of small modular reactors all over Britain as well as the far-off dream of nuclear fusion.
Guardian 27/9/24

Just for once the Guardian accidentally printed the truth.

Ps I didn't say I felt happy about it, on the contrary!

TakeThat7

Listened toStarmers speech today reminded me of a very boring church sermon
I got the impression he is setting up lots of groups to sit and discuss what to do so it seemed pretty hopeless They do keep saying they are going to build a lot of houses I got that zBut
couldn't he make some decisions that people want like get rid of TV licence don't watch BBC why do I have to pay for it Doctors seeing patients again iñ doctors surgeries and getting rid of the awful everyone phone the doctors at 8am where people who are at work can't do that and people who are ill hang on the phone only to be told all the appointments have now gone phone again tomorrow

Well, ‘ people’ doesn’t include me. Why assume that because you don’t agree with something everyone else feels the same? Nothing wrong with lots of groups discussing things. Am I right in thinking that a lot of these committees are cross party?

Lots of groups discussing things costs lots of money. After 14 years in opposition, only now do they decide to discuss things to decide what to do.

Better to discuss things and make plans rather than throw money at the sort of grand sounding vanity projects that Johnson used to throw money at. Imo

I guess you have to make fast (and sometimes shown to have been wrong in the future) decisions when you suddenly find the country is in the middle of a worldwide pandemic.

Oh dear, that’s really not what you should do at all, is it? You should have a robust emergency planning framework for pandemics, and an up to date stock of PPE at the very least.

petal53

I guess you have to make fast (and sometimes shown to have been wrong in the future) decisions when you suddenly find the country is in the middle of a worldwide pandemic.

You mean like giving multi million pound contracts to people that can’t even make the stuff you’re paying them for? Or asking Dyson to make life saving equipment ‘ because he knows how to make vacuum cleaners’…

Gris71 did you receive any help for Covid and the fuel crisis? I know I did we had the help with energy costs , my son had help with furlough costs for his staff as his comisby closed down(travel industry ) where do you think all this money came from? And how were we to pay it back ? Over years like we paid for the war and I believe we only finished that payment a few years ago. So I think it is disingenuous for the Labour government To blame everything on the previous government . During Covid I remember hearing a comment by a specialist who said “ this government will not get re-elected after what they have had to do to keep this country going during Covid

Have affairs, parties, and pay chums for ideas that never got off the ground?
That specialist may have been right.

The Rwanda scheme was dead in the water and that is why we had an early election.

Lovetopaint037

The Rwanda scheme was dead in the water and that is why we had an early election.

Lots of people in Rwanda got houses.. and Rwanda did very well out of the scheme..

ruthiek

Gris71 did you receive any help for Covid and the fuel crisis? I know I did we had the help with energy costs , my son had help with furlough costs for his staff as his comisby closed down(travel industry ) where do you think all this money came from? And how were we to pay it back ? Over years like we paid for the war and I believe we only finished that payment a few years ago. So I think it is disingenuous for the Labour government To blame everything on the previous government . During Covid I remember hearing a comment by a specialist who said “ this government will not get re-elected after what they have had to do to keep this country going during Covid

Well said ruthiek i was just about to say all of what you said so well.

The Conservatives had more thrown at them than any other Government apart from war years. Covid was a massive thing to deal with on its own.

For 14 years Labour sat back and moaned and said “if we were in power it would all be much better”. They had all those years to come up with some wonderful plans but no, all they did was moan and belittle.

Now they are in and the majority of people say they are doing a dreadful job, they wish they hadn’t voted for them and KS is the most unpopular PM in living memory.

If the previous government hadn’t’ve got rid of our storage facilities we wouldn’t have had such a bad fuel crisis.

Casdon

Oh dear, that’s really not what you should do at all, is it? You should have a robust emergency planning framework for pandemics, and an up to date stock of PPE at the very least.

That would be impossible, an up to date stock of PPE! It would sit in containers and be unusable by the time another pandemic comes around.
A plan, yes.

ruthiek

Gris71 did you receive any help for Covid and the fuel crisis? I know I did we had the help with energy costs , my son had help with furlough costs for his staff as his comisby closed down(travel industry ) where do you think all this money came from? And how were we to pay it back ? Over years like we paid for the war and I believe we only finished that payment a few years ago. So I think it is disingenuous for the Labour government To blame everything on the previous government . During Covid I remember hearing a comment by a specialist who said “ this government will not get re-elected after what they have had to do to keep this country going during Covid

I agree with you.
The Conservatives had to go, it was time and I don’t believe they’ve sorted themselves out yet, and Labour I hope will yet do well, but they haven’t made the best start, and we all know how much money had to be spent throughout the pandemic and any shade of government would have had to spend eye watering amounts.

Oreo

Casdon

Oh dear, that’s really not what you should do at all, is it? You should have a robust emergency planning framework for pandemics, and an up to date stock of PPE at the very least.

That would be impossible, an up to date stock of PPE! It would sit in containers and be unusable by the time another pandemic comes around.
A plan, yes.

Not if it's properly managed. Stock rotation is the name of the game. An old and effective technique.

The problem was that management of the emergency PPE stock was privatised by the tories. With what appears to be the usual results. Inefficiency and incompetence.

any shade of government would have had to spend eye watering amounts.

A different shade of government might not have spent so much money gleefully enriching their friends and donors. 😆

MaizieD

Oreo

Casdon

Oh dear, that’s really not what you should do at all, is it? You should have a robust emergency planning framework for pandemics, and an up to date stock of PPE at the very least.

That would be impossible, an up to date stock of PPE! It would sit in containers and be unusable by the time another pandemic comes around.
A plan, yes.

Not if it's properly managed. Stock rotation is the name of the game. An old and effective technique.

The problem was that management of the emergency PPE stock was privatised by the tories. With what appears to be the usual results. Inefficiency and incompetence.

The stock at the PPE stores for pandemics is items that are used every day in the NHS. It would be very straightforward to devise a system rotate stock out of the stores to service, and replace the stock in the PPE store. I know they are everyday use items, I was working in the NHS in the pandemic when we received the PPE stock.

They're used daily in care work, too.
People were being exposed to the risk of covid due to ppe not being available.