Keir Starmer Six Milestones speech and paper

Isn’t the point that the heating that MOs get paid is in their workplace. Who pays the heating bills for their offices/factories/classrooms? Are people really suggesting that this becomes the norm?

I puzzled a bit over MOs. I assume it's a typo for MPs?

Just read some of the comments Someone asked why I'm jealous of Starmers success I don't even see him as a success !!! I never wanted to be a prime minister I just think he and the rest of labour are messing up

And replying to comments about no luxury plaçe for Starmers son Did the papers lie about the luxury flat he used for his son to study for his GCSEs because his son couldnt concentrate with reporters around their home And what about his very expensive taste in glasses did he develop that being working class He also has obviously little working class experience that he's putting to good use

On his speech someone claimed he was. Making opportunities what were the opportunitiesThey are changing right to buy making it more difficult to own your own home Don't nurses still have to pay to do a degree whilst working and of course they are less helpful with winter fuel issues

MaizieD

I puzzled a bit over MOs. I assume it's a typo for MPs?

Assuming its MP's, normal expenses do cover office space in the constituency.

Separate for heating homes and thats where suggestions for changes apply?

It’s been a sad and shaky start and a pity that KS is so lacking in charisma. But we knew that and thought a bit of Boring no bad thing.
As others have said his targets seem dangerously unachievable.
He attacks ‘nimbys’ re housing targets. In my area the problem is the developers who find it more profitable to build a few grand house than 10 affordable ones.
Reducing waiting time for elective surgery will be heavily dependent on investment in primary and social care.
Making sure children are ready for school at age 4+ should be a cop-out of a target, involving families and playgroups.
But I wish the govt well.

It's a fundamental flaw that he didn't include improving Social Services.. how can he possibly fulfil his promise re the Health Service without doing that..

Yes aspects are definitely interconnected as in leaving hospital. I can't see how that won't have to be addressed.

J52, it was from one of the police chiefs on X but I can’t remember his name. I will try and find it.

winterwhite

It’s been a sad and shaky start and a pity that KS is so lacking in charisma. But we knew that and thought a bit of Boring no bad thing.
As others have said his targets seem dangerously unachievable.
He attacks ‘nimbys’ re housing targets. In my area the problem is the developers who find it more profitable to build a few grand house than 10 affordable ones.
Reducing waiting time for elective surgery will be heavily dependent on investment in primary and social care.
Making sure children are ready for school at age 4+ should be a cop-out of a target, involving families and playgroups.
But I wish the govt well.

I agree that his lack of charisma makes things difficult, but given the choice I'd rather have a steady hand than a showman.

I think most of the targets are achievable. I'm not sure about the 'school-ready' children, as too much of that is out of the government's hands. They can put schemes like Sure Start in place, but people have to want to attend before they can do any good.

If the housing targets are for social housing and right to buy is curtailed, it won't be down to builders and their profits, but to what the needs of the population are.

I agree that the NHS has a hill to climb, but I think that for the first time in more than a decade the will is there to climb it. Yes, it will mean paying more, which many will complain about; but I think it's a price worth paying. Also, those who are currently forking out for private operations won't need to do so if things are fixed, so by the time the disposable income test is applied most people will be better off financially as well as physically.

As you say, I wish them well - all of the targets are things I would like to see come to pass.

Hmm Johnson and his 'afters' had chances and chances and chances! How about giving this one a break. He has a longer term strategy. I really miss the winter fuel allowance but I'm not going to turn on him for something that more needy people will be able to access.
By the way, he's middle class, is that OK?

By the way, he's middle class, is that OK?
It's fine by me

Why wouldn't it be?

He also stated that there are more tax rises to come.

yellowfox

He also stated that there are more tax rises to come.

He said he couldn't rule it out.

If he did rule it out and then had to introduce them, he'd be accused of lying. It must be really bad for the mental health to have everything pulled apart and used against you in this way.

I appreciate that all politicians get it to a certain extent - that is the role of the media - but I have never known anything like the vitriol that's been shown to this government, although the UK press has always been right wing. I suppose the last time the LP was in power there was no social media, or what there was wasn't as readily available.

Well I'm really not sure how he will reduce the NHS waiting times etc, my local children's hospital have told staff they need to "find" £1m for next year! I ve no idea how this is going to happen. Staff pressured into doing extra lists on their days off and longer shift patterns! It's not good when staff are tired from their normal shifts!

No, I'm not sure either, but I'm prepared to wait and see.

Doodledog

winterwhite

It’s been a sad and shaky start and a pity that KS is so lacking in charisma. But we knew that and thought a bit of Boring no bad thing.
As others have said his targets seem dangerously unachievable.
He attacks ‘nimbys’ re housing targets. In my area the problem is the developers who find it more profitable to build a few grand house than 10 affordable ones.
Reducing waiting time for elective surgery will be heavily dependent on investment in primary and social care.
Making sure children are ready for school at age 4+ should be a cop-out of a target, involving families and playgroups.
But I wish the govt well.

I agree that his lack of charisma makes things difficult, but given the choice I'd rather have a steady hand than a showman.

I think most of the targets are achievable. I'm not sure about the 'school-ready' children, as too much of that is out of the government's hands. They can put schemes like Sure Start in place, but people have to want to attend before they can do any good.

If the housing targets are for social housing and right to buy is curtailed, it won't be down to builders and their profits, but to what the needs of the population are.

I agree that the NHS has a hill to climb, but I think that for the first time in more than a decade the will is there to climb it. Yes, it will mean paying more, which many will complain about; but I think it's a price worth paying. Also, those who are currently forking out for private operations won't need to do so if things are fixed, so by the time the disposable income test is applied most people will be better off financially as well as physically.

As you say, I wish them well - all of the targets are things I would like to see come to pass.

I wish them well too, we all must as what they do affects us all.
I’d rather have a steady hand than a showman too, but am now wondering if indeed he is a steady hand.
I doubt the targets are achievable in the first place and if they are what other areas will suffer.In other words am hopeful but doubtful.

J52, sorry, I have looked but cannot find it, I wish I could remember his name. It was a police chief from one of the English forces. I should have made a mental note when I read it.