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Bring it on Elon!

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 17-Dec-24 19:10:59

The world’s most successful business man wants to support Reform. The Tories and Labour will be bricking it.

Allira Fri 20-Dec-24 21:32:31

Bristol:
The queues for a new NHS dental practice^went on for hours, days even; police had to be called to control the crowds.

Maria, 80, a local resident, told Bristol Live: “The dentist has been closed for some time. I couldn’t get into any of the other dentists – the appointments were fully booked, the waiting lists were too long.

“One of my neighbours – she’s facing an operation for cancer tomorrow. She’ll be somewhere in the queue. She’s also disabled and can’t stand for very long, but she’s had no choice but to stand.”

Does anyone know of a charity who can help these Bristol residents, please?

PoliticsNerd Fri 20-Dec-24 21:35:25

I would think anyone wanting democracy would be concerned, FriedGreenTomatoes2.

Casdon Fri 20-Dec-24 21:38:05

Where I am children can be booked to see the community dentist based at the hospital if they are unable to get an appointment with a dentist - although we’ve got an NHS practice again now too so it’s not the issue it was.

I don’t think it’s fair to criticise a charity which has set itself up for a specific group because it the doesn’t meet the needs of another group, that happens all the time?

I do agree that dental services generally in the UK are in a dire state, and it’s not an issue that can be solved quickly either, we all know the score perfectly well.

Allira Fri 20-Dec-24 21:40:36

The community dentist has become private only here.
We have had to help pay for DGC to have dental treatment, £thousands. Not through neglect before anyone criticises.

Casdon Fri 20-Dec-24 21:59:00

That’s different to Wales then Allira, here the community dentists are employees of the Health Boards, not contractors like normal dentists. The community dentist caseload is usually people who can’t be dealt with in general dental practices, eg people with behavioural issues, phobics, etc., but ours have been making space for more children with dental problems too.

Allira Fri 20-Dec-24 22:06:16

The dentist was in Wales, Casdon.
There is a cross-border agreement with Gloucestershire.

Casdon Fri 20-Dec-24 22:15:58

I’ll PM you Allira, the CDS hasn’t been privatised in Wales.

Allira Fri 20-Dec-24 22:17:02

Thanks

But there is no NHS dentist here.

imaround Fri 20-Dec-24 22:51:27

Reminder of who Elon Musk is.

Allira Fri 20-Dec-24 22:56:11

Why can't he just buy a super-yacht, a remote island, have affairs etc like any normal billionaire?
Why does he want world domination?

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 00:43:37

For those following at home, our House has passed the spending bill after Elon tanked the first bipartisan bill that took months to negotiate. I don't have all the information yet, but it appears that the biggest loser is childhood cancer research. They stripped $190 million for it from the bill.

Musk paid more then that to buy the Presidency.

Republicans are now talking about voting Musk for Speaker of the House. They think it is a good idea to install an unelected immigrant to lead one of the chambers in our Congress. Despite the fact that the holder of this position would be 3rd on line to the Presidency and Musk, by law, can't be President because he is an immigrant.

You really do not want this man to have this much power in your countries, trust me.

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Dec-24 00:54:56

I wondered what would happen tonight in the Senate, imaround. It's disgraceful what happened to the original bill.
But how could he be speaker if unelected?

Thank you for the reminder of where Musk stands politically.

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 01:21:21

Came by to let you know that if you really do believe that Musk won't ask Reform for something in return for his $100 million, here he is telling you straight out that isn't true.

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 01:26:43

Wyllow3, apparently our founding fathers didn't think they needed to put things in our Constitution like a felon can't be President and Speaker of the House must be an elected official. There isn't anything that says he can't be it, so they think it means he can.

The Senate will pass the bill and Biden will sign it this weekend.

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 03:26:22

Senate passed the children's cancer treatment as a separate bill and passed it. Thank goodness. Those researchers have been working on this funding for years, I am glad it went through.

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ronib Sat 21-Dec-24 07:33:04

Is it true that Musk wants to colonise Mars? Pity for Mars. Still I don’t see where people like Musk find their energy. Perhaps Musk could encourage Trump to relocate …..problem solved.

PoliticsNerd Sat 21-Dec-24 08:27:43

DroppingIn

Even if Elon were a successful businessman (which he isn't, he's only been successful in leveraging the money he was born into, into even more money), why on Earth would you want your government run like a business? Businesses only care about profits, government should only care about people.

Thank you for your knowledge-based posts DroppingIn. They may be the "blooming obvious* to Americans but they need saying over here.

Maremia Sat 21-Dec-24 09:17:10

Shinamae, thank you for admiting what many believe to be true, that Reform does NOT have a policy for the NHS.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 21-Dec-24 09:21:45

Thank you again, imaround, for reminding us about the views of this deeply unpleasant man who seems poised to be buying a stake in British politics.

love0c Sat 21-Dec-24 09:22:57

Maremia And what is Labour's? The usual 'let us look around to see who has aspirations, has worked hard, made a success of their career, saved, invested well, not been frivolous with their money, looked after their family and never looked around themselves to see whose money they can take'! That is the group who Labour will have fund the NHS!

MaizieD Sat 21-Dec-24 09:29:58

Why were 2 of droppingin's posts deleted? Is the one quoted by PoliticsNerd one of them? Because it looks perfectly innocuous.

MissAdventure Sat 21-Dec-24 09:33:15

Because the user was banned on the estrangement thread, for spouting the usual old tripe.

Ohhowwelaughed Sat 21-Dec-24 10:14:10

Maremia

Shinamae, thank you for admiting what many believe to be true, that Reform does NOT have a policy for the NHS.

How many times.. they say they want to swap to an insurance based model such as the French system.
Now I am sure even you would agree how they will do that would not be known until they could delve into the current workings of the dept of health.