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Maximum Sentence for Dominique Pelicot

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ferry23 Thu 19-Dec-24 09:22:34

20 years. Good

Sentencing continuing now for others.

Sarnia Thu 19-Dec-24 09:32:37

There is a thread on Gisele Pelicot already under news and politics.

ferry23 Thu 19-Dec-24 09:38:48

I know. I was just posting the live sentencing so it didn't get lost in the hundreds of posts on the other threads.

Mizuna Thu 19-Dec-24 09:41:34

Good idea ferry23.

Mt61 Thu 19-Dec-24 09:42:30

Not long enough!

tanith Thu 19-Dec-24 09:52:36

I think that’s the highest sentence for rape in France, that says it all about France.

ferry23 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:03:26

A lot of them got on average 2 years less than the prosecutors had requested angry

I wonder who is paying for all their defence lawyers?

Defences included -

"I didn't know what consent was"

"It was New Year's Eve and I didn't have anything else to do"

The whole nasty business, from start to finish, beggars belief. Except I doubt it will ever be finished for Gisele Pelicot.

rafichagran Thu 19-Dec-24 10:05:15

Should be 20 years for each rape. The husband was a wicked evil excuse for a human being.

rafichagran Thu 19-Dec-24 10:07:31

I know the above is not possible under there law though.

Wyllow3 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:08:40

Not enough!

Astitchintime Thu 19-Dec-24 10:08:51

Nowhere near enough IMO! And I hope he has an extremely unpleasant time serving his sentence.

MrsSquirrel Thu 19-Dec-24 10:22:26

Yes but he is 72 years old. Chances are he will spend the rest of his life in prison.

Gisele will certainly be living with the consequences of what he did for the rest of her life.

Nannee49 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:26:12

Arrogance, arrogance, arrogance is what, to me, comes across so strongly from the legal teams representing these foul abusers.

ferry23 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:38:47

Nannee49

Arrogance, arrogance, arrogance is what, to me, comes across so strongly from the legal teams representing these foul abusers.

For me, there's a lot of ethical issues at play.

I suppose, (reluctantly, but probably according to some law or other) even if it's a guilty plea, they're entitled to a defence to mitigate the potential incarceration time.

Being cynical, defence lawyers will make money out of it whatever the sentence is, so they plough on with some ridiculous arguments.

But is the state paying them? If I were a French tax payer I wouldn't be too impressed if that's the case.

I could never be a defence lawyer - I would never have been able to take on any of the cases in this sordid business. I just couldn't on moral grounds. So I'd fail at the first fence.

Rosie51 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:39:50

Does anybody know if French prisoners serve the whole of their sentence or is there the expectation that they are allowed out on licence after serving a portion of it? I'm hoping they have to serve the entire length.

pascal30 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:41:24

At least they are all guilty and going to jail.. Including the horrible man whose wife Pelicot also regularly raped.. He has got 12 years..
so despite all their pathetic attempts to mitigate their actions.. 25% saying they were sexually abused as children, others saying they thought it was a game and others that they were intimidated and scared of M.Pelicot.. the law stood strong which of course it had to with the eyes of the world on it..
It was a very wise decision Mdme Pelicot to to go public.. perhaps France will now take these rape and assault cases seriously from nowon...

pascal30 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:42:20

took to go

GrannyGravy13 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:48:59

I hope Monsieur Pelicot spends the rest of his life in jail.

As for the others, their pathetic excuses for their despicable rapes of a comatose female leave me speechless!

They all deserve the maximum sentence available to the Judge.

ferry23 Thu 19-Dec-24 10:50:02

I hope so Pascal, although I daresay there are worse examples around the world....but let's not even go there.

Caleo Thu 19-Dec-24 10:55:17

That there were so many rapists must mean there is something wrong with the culture of belief . Was it lack of moral education in French homes ands schools.

Jaxjacky Thu 19-Dec-24 11:14:05

I hope the law is changed so consent is now added to any consideration of rape.

Nannee49 Thu 19-Dec-24 11:21:33

I think the image France loves to portray of being the superior culture of Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite, has taken a severe battering and shown that, far from being the sophisticated, progressive leader of enlightenment the rest of Europe should look up to it is, in fact, a tawdry shambles of deep misogyny and mediaeval mindsets.

Dinahmo Thu 19-Dec-24 11:50:13

Nannee49

I think the image France loves to portray of being the superior culture of Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite, has taken a severe battering and shown that, far from being the sophisticated, progressive leader of enlightenment the rest of Europe should look up to it is, in fact, a tawdry shambles of deep misogyny and mediaeval mindsets.

It's both.

Caleo Thu 19-Dec-24 11:52:50

Maybe hyperbolic Nannee, but true . Let's now inspect our own British culture and review how much misogyny there is.
Is misogyny an outgrowth from capitalism? An effect of human nature?

Anthropology can I hope find the causes of cultures of rape and exploitation. When we find the causes we can prevent the crimes.

vegansrock Thu 19-Dec-24 13:00:02

Anyone who thinks horrible rapes don’t happen in the uk think again. Plus only a tiny % of rape cases end in a prosecution.