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Oh my! Farage isn’t up to it - according to Musk😄😄

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 05-Jan-25 14:39:56

Glorious😄😄😄

BevSec Mon 06-Jan-25 15:40:02

Claremont

Having deliberately estranged ourselves from the EU, for the sake of so called Sovereignty- we now find ourselves with no choice but to accept almost anything from Trump and Musk, for survival.

I always find it sad that there is such little belief in Great Britain, and that its thought we are only worthwhile as a country as EU members, not because we are such a wonderful country, independent of the EU, which in my opinion, we are.

westendgirl Mon 06-Jan-25 15:53:30

I see Musk has now launched a poll , asking if "U.S. should liberate Britain from tyrranical government " !
He gets more and more like a theme for a Monty Python sketch.Is the man suffering from some delusion ?

Wyllow3 Mon 06-Jan-25 16:03:57

Yes.

Allira Mon 06-Jan-25 16:12:01

westendgirl

I see Musk has now launched a poll , asking if "U.S. should liberate Britain from tyrranical government " !
He gets more and more like a theme for a Monty Python sketch.Is the man suffering from some delusion ?

You'd laugh if he was so scary!

Allira Mon 06-Jan-25 16:13:18

If he wasn't so scary!

(Apologies, DH started telling me about EM at the same time.)

petra Mon 06-Jan-25 16:16:37

Claremont

Having deliberately estranged ourselves from the EU, for the sake of so called Sovereignty- we now find ourselves with no choice but to accept almost anything from Trump and Musk, for survival.

Could you back that ludicrous statement with just one fact. 🤷‍♀️

growstuff Mon 06-Jan-25 16:33:14

Willow3

TR had 100,000 people at his last rally in London in August and has a million followers. For many years he has exposed the grooming gangs! Most of these followers support Reform too and would vote for them. NF should acknowledge TR's views but still keep him out of Reform. Now in his forties TR is not the thug he was supposed to be when he ran EDL in his twenties and is a true patriot routing for Britain and is not racist. My son follows him and keeps me advised.

Phew! For a moment I thought this had been posted by Wyllow3.

MaizieD Mon 06-Jan-25 16:33:58

Whitewavemark2

MaizieD

That's one policy that I agree with too.
The bank reserves that the BoE pays interest on are money that was created by the BoE in the first place. The rationale for paying interest on reserves is that they are deposit accounts with the BoE. As the commercial banks didn't actually make the deposits the interest payments are completely free, unearned profit for the banks, used to pay equally unearned excessive bankers' salaries and bonuses.
The economic ramifications IMO are that it takes some bricks out of the government's 'we can't afford it' wall.

I think that an announcement such as Farage is suggesting would crash financial stability, and we would once again be at the mercy of the markets, and in a full blown financial crises.

And default? How would they deal with that?

I am not suggesting however that interest payment should continue for ever, I think that the BoE might say that it intends to stop paying interest once the QE has been fully re-paid.

I know that the discussion has moved on a bit, but I’ve been belatedly taking down Christmas decorations.

The interest paid to commercial banks is nothing to do with QE. It is the interest paid on the huge reserves the banks need because of the govt’s guarantee that deposits of up to £85k would be honoured by the government in the event of a bank failure (such as were threatened at the time of the GFC)

As it was the BoE who credited the banks with the extra reserves why would not paying interest on them cause any problems?

As I said, this has nothing to do with QE.

As. matter of interest, though, who do you think the UK owes the QE money to?

GrannyVM Mon 06-Jan-25 16:41:03

Sorry but why on earth should we put up with Musk interfering in British politics? I find this really alarming. And supporting Tommy Robinson?!!

MayBee70 Mon 06-Jan-25 16:54:06

petra

Claremont

Having deliberately estranged ourselves from the EU, for the sake of so called Sovereignty- we now find ourselves with no choice but to accept almost anything from Trump and Musk, for survival.

Could you back that ludicrous statement with just one fact. 🤷‍♀️

Not ludicrous at all. Imo

Babs03 Mon 06-Jan-25 17:15:40

Willow3 is not Wyllow3, I just got very confused and bewildered. I attributed a post by Willow3 to Wyllow3.
Am glad growstuff has pointed this out.
Phew from me as well.

Allira Mon 06-Jan-25 17:17:23

Babs03

Willow3 is not Wyllow3, I just got very confused and bewildered. I attributed a post by Willow3 to Wyllow3.
Am glad growstuff has pointed this out.
Phew from me as well.

That's a bit worrying.

Does Wyllow3 know, perhaps she could ask GNHQ if they could change one of them.

HousePlantQueen Mon 06-Jan-25 17:31:14

Babs03

Willow3 is not Wyllow3, I just got very confused and bewildered. I attributed a post by Willow3 to Wyllow3.
Am glad growstuff has pointed this out.
Phew from me as well.

And me! I was going to ask if Wyllow3's account had been hacked! Especially when she said her son kept her up to date about Tommy Robinson.

Why on earth was Willow3 permitted to use a name so similar? Why the 3?

fancythat Mon 06-Jan-25 17:39:38

Whitewavemark2

NannyJan53

Maybe I too would like to know what Reforms policies are. Apart from anti-immigration. No-one here has ever been able to enlighten me.

The manifesto (contract) on which people voted has been withdrawn, as it was described as Liz Truss on stilts. So imagine that snd you get an idea of their economic policy.

Disastrous!

A manifesto has not been a contract for a decade or more I would say.
All parties break them. I pay scant notice any more.

But I do take your point a bit.

But it did have some finance policies, if I rememeber correctly, when I and others looked it up, back whenever the General Election was.

fancythat Mon 06-Jan-25 17:42:34

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1337471-Reform-Farage-economic-policies-don-t-add-up

To NannyJan 53.

Cossy Mon 06-Jan-25 17:46:46

karmalady

Farage is definitely not a slithery boot- licking crawler, like many. Good on him, this stance will gather even more support. The man had backbone

Hahaha Farage is a bit of a slithery boot-licker, have you not seen him fawning over Trump?

Cossy Mon 06-Jan-25 17:56:40

Willow3

TR had 100,000 people at his last rally in London in August and has a million followers. For many years he has exposed the grooming gangs! Most of these followers support Reform too and would vote for them. NF should acknowledge TR's views but still keep him out of Reform. Now in his forties TR is not the thug he was supposed to be when he ran EDL in his twenties and is a true patriot routing for Britain and is not racist. My son follows him and keeps me advised.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with you re TR. he and his followers are racist thugs. He wouldn’t have got involved in any grooming activity had the perpetrators not been Asian or black

Babs03 Mon 06-Jan-25 18:01:17

Have reported the difficulty with a willow3 and Wyllow3 to GNHQ.
I had a troll that used my name, simply changing one letter of my name.
May not be this but at least they know.

love0c Mon 06-Jan-25 18:24:12

Well done Nigel Farage! Straight talking. No waiting a week or two to see what the media, public thought!

Jeanathome Mon 06-Jan-25 18:29:33

That creature Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a toad. He should get back under his rock.

No, he did not expose " grooming gangs" He jumped on a handy excuse to pedal his deeply unpleasant racist propoganda.

Babs03 Mon 06-Jan-25 18:42:01

Cossy

Willow3

TR had 100,000 people at his last rally in London in August and has a million followers. For many years he has exposed the grooming gangs! Most of these followers support Reform too and would vote for them. NF should acknowledge TR's views but still keep him out of Reform. Now in his forties TR is not the thug he was supposed to be when he ran EDL in his twenties and is a true patriot routing for Britain and is not racist. My son follows him and keeps me advised.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with you re TR. he and his followers are racist thugs. He wouldn’t have got involved in any grooming activity had the perpetrators not been Asian or black

Agree totally.
Stephen Yaxley Lennon is every bit the thug we know him to be. And this country does not need patriots like him.

Wyllow3 Mon 06-Jan-25 18:47:50

growstuff

Willow3

TR had 100,000 people at his last rally in London in August and has a million followers. For many years he has exposed the grooming gangs! Most of these followers support Reform too and would vote for them. NF should acknowledge TR's views but still keep him out of Reform. Now in his forties TR is not the thug he was supposed to be when he ran EDL in his twenties and is a true patriot routing for Britain and is not racist. My son follows him and keeps me advised.

Phew! For a moment I thought this had been posted by Wyllow3.

I feel helpless to know what to do about this. People who know me will know what I'm like to have posted but not others.
Help!

Claremont Mon 06-Jan-25 18:48:50

petra

Claremont

Having deliberately estranged ourselves from the EU, for the sake of so called Sovereignty- we now find ourselves with no choice but to accept almost anything from Trump and Musk, for survival.

Could you back that ludicrous statement with just one fact. 🤷‍♀️

Just common sense, really. Our economy is in big trouble and we have lost billions in loss of EU market. No other deals of any significance have been gained- so the USA is our only hope. I am surprised you can't see this as it is so obvious.

Cossy Mon 06-Jan-25 18:55:40

Jeanathome

That creature Stephen Yaxley-Lennon is a toad. He should get back under his rock.

No, he did not expose " grooming gangs" He jumped on a handy excuse to pedal his deeply unpleasant racist propoganda.

Well said!

Wyllow3 Mon 06-Jan-25 18:56:23

The reporting function isnt working at the moment. I am glad that people have pointed out I'm Wyllow3 and no one else. Some here know my POV but not all...