A Note to Elon Musk

Only the deliberately blind would suggest that white men aren't the largest number of sexual abusers, but to say that a number of Pakistani Muslims abusers don't consider white children as 'fair game' is either naive or deliberately ignorant.

I see that BBC Verify - Ros Atkins has been examining Musks SM activity over a period of 24 hours.

Apart from the fact that imo Musk seems a man obsessed, Atkins noted and listed the high level of misinformation and downright lies told by Musk during this period, including some damaging stuff about the British government.

What a pest he is.

Rosie51

Wyllow3

She showed pictures of white men to balance the stereotype "it's all Pakistani" lodged in many peoples heads.

I don't agree. The "spot the Pakistani" was intended to suggest Pakistani men weren't abusers. Can you link to any victims of the Pakistani gangs who weren't white girls? Do you disagree that they targeted white girls and therefore demonstrated their racist attitudes?

That is utter bollocks, Rosie51. A disgusting assumption that I can’t even be bothered to respond to.

Wyllow is absolutely correct. I showed the pictures of the members of 12 white grooming gangs because there is too much emphasis on the ethnicity of the minority of the grooming gangs (3 as opposed to 12) known about and prosecuted.

Musk’s attack of the UK, and this thread, isn’t showing any concern about the abuse of young girls (or even really about the abuse of young girls at all) by people of all ethnicities, just the coloured ones. It’s blatant racism designed to stir up more racism.

Well you can thank Musk for uniting the ‘united kingdom’ as never before- against him. Maybe that was deliberate, wouldn’t put it past him.

nanna8

Well you can thank Musk for uniting the ‘united kingdom’ as never before- against him. Maybe that was deliberate, wouldn’t put it past him.

Have you read this thread?😄

MaizieD

Rosie51

Wyllow3

She showed pictures of white men to balance the stereotype "it's all Pakistani" lodged in many peoples heads.

I don't agree. The "spot the Pakistani" was intended to suggest Pakistani men weren't abusers. Can you link to any victims of the Pakistani gangs who weren't white girls? Do you disagree that they targeted white girls and therefore demonstrated their racist attitudes?

That is utter bollocks, Rosie51. A disgusting assumption that I can’t even be bothered to respond to.

Wyllow is absolutely correct. I showed the pictures of the members of 12 white grooming gangs because there is too much emphasis on the ethnicity of the minority of the grooming gangs (3 as opposed to 12) known about and prosecuted.

Musk’s attack of the UK, and this thread, isn’t showing any concern about the abuse of young girls (or even really about the abuse of young girls at all) by people of all ethnicities, just the coloured ones. It’s blatant racism designed to stir up more racism.

So are you saying that 20% of the UK population are Pakistani Muslims so the known grooming gangs are in absolute proportion? I'll suggest that your post is "utter bollocks" that isn't worthy of response, see how easy that is? I don't give a monkey's about Musk, he's an irrelevant idiot, but would welcome your links to where these Pakistani grooming gangs abused anyone but white under age girls. I don't think for one nanosecond Musk gives one millisecond's thoughts to the abused girls, but to deny that these Muslim men targeted white girls is either blind or deliberately ignorant. To ignore one targeted abuse because there are others is not especially worthy. We all know there are other paedophile groups that aren't especially selective in their choice of victims but that kind of 'whataboutery' doesn't demonstrate an intelligent response.

As a separate enquiry MaizieD have you done any research or posted any comments showing the breakdown of the ethnicity/religion of the victims of all abusive groups or does that not interest you at all? I'll take a non reply as indicative that you don't actually give a monkey's about the victims whatever their ethnicity or religious affiliation.

Maisue, so the girls used by these men who are Pakistani, don't matter? Why? Is it because they are young and vulnerable and were drawn in because they thought someobe actually cared about them. A child needs life, protection and to feel safe. Every abuse case is important. These girls were let down by authority. Why we allowed them legal aid I can't fathom. Millions spent on lowlife which would have helped so much in other areas.

I find it to be unlikely that men who behave as these men of mainly Pakistani Muslim heritage did towards vulnerable white children, confined their behaviour to those girls. The girls were vulnerable in a way that few girls from the Pakistani Muslim community would be.

My area has a large community, we see groups of girls walking home from school together. Yiu don’t see them hanging around street corners, take always, etc because they’re not allowed out without purpose and escort. The victims in these rape gang cases were often out of the control of their parents or carers. I’m not blaming the children for that, or the parents/carers just stating the facts

Men who torture, rape and terrify children for sexual pleasure are acting to satisfy perverted needs. Their wives and children are even less likely to involve police/social workers in any abuse they experience than women in less closed communities,.

Rosie51

As a separate enquiry MaizieD have you done any research or posted any comments showing the breakdown of the ethnicity/religion of the victims of all abusive groups or does that not interest you at all? I'll take a non reply as indicative that you don't actually give a monkey's about the victims whatever their ethnicity or religious affiliation.

I don’t have to emote all over Gransnet to satisfy your prejudices.

I’m not surprised these Pakistani grooming gangs got away with their behaviour for so long reading some of the posts on here.
Always white man bad. Nothing else exists.

Can you imagine being the mother of one of the victims of these Pakistani gangs ( or worse a victim ) reading this thread and seeing a post saying ‘spot the Pakistani’ -?
It’s absolutely disgusting.

MaizieD

Rosie51

As a separate enquiry MaizieD have you done any research or posted any comments showing the breakdown of the ethnicity/religion of the victims of all abusive groups or does that not interest you at all? I'll take a non reply as indicative that you don't actually give a monkey's about the victims whatever their ethnicity or religious affiliation.

I don’t have to emote all over Gransnet to satisfy your prejudices.

I don’t think it’s Rosie51 who has the prejudices.
The girls abused and raped by the Pakistani/ Pakistani heritage grooming gangs mainly went after white girls as they were easier targets as Iam64 says but also as they didn’t want to face revenge from Pakistani menfolk if they tried it with their daughters.And knew they could flimflam the authorities here with cries of racism if anyone objected.That’s what’s really disgusting.

Musk is obvs trying to stir up far right outrage both here and in Germany. His interest in the grooming gangs in the UK or fighting sexual predation in general is minimal, he is using this to fuel his own nefarious agenda.
The man is on a par with Andrew Tate when it comes to misogyny so to suggest he cares an iota for women or girls is as risible as it is dangerous.
Right now Jess Philips is having to live with extra security on a daily basis due to increased rape and death threats.
Musk is an obscene individual who has the ability to stir up hatred in other likeminded obscene individuals.

What has Musk got to do with it?
These gangs have been operating ( being ignored ) for years, long before any of you had heard of him.
Stop blaming him for what others have done. It’s just hiding what’s happening ( again )

I agree Babs03 tho I don’t think he’s on a par with Andrew Tate, as that would take some doing!

Kandinsky

What has Musk got to do with it?
These gangs have been operating ( being ignored ) for years, long before any of you had heard of him.
Stop blaming him for what others have done. It’s just hiding what’s happening ( again )

Am hoping Andy Burnham gets people behind him to open up a limited national inquiry into it Kandinsky as that will be something at least.

If Musk was genuinely interested in the victims of sexual assault, then why did he catapult a convicted sexual offender into the White House?

I agree and if you look at sone of the key feminist figures who have spent years on violence against women and girls they are saying the same thing that it is much easier to talk about Musk than to talk about the issue. I trust their views on this.

I was agreeing with Kandinskys comment about Musk there.

Kandinsky

What has Musk got to do with it?
These gangs have been operating ( being ignored ) for years, long before any of you had heard of him.
Stop blaming him for what others have done. It’s just hiding what’s happening ( again )

Well said, Kandinsky.

What happened to just ignoring what people like Musk say? MSM is making it (what Musk said) out to be much more of an issue than it is.

He is not interested in the victims . He is weaponising their trauma for his own ends.

Maremia

He is not interested in the victims . He is weaponising their trauma for his own ends.

Exactly.
Is diabolical.

Maremia

He is not interested in the victims . He is weaponising their trauma for his own ends.

This is a subjective judgment unless you know the man personally, maremia.

You could be right of course, but I think it's equally possible Musk actually does care about justice and that's why he spoke up.

I just wonder how Trump will now navigate relations with European countries whose democracies have been undermined by Musks interference. Despite Trump’s arrogance towards Europe he is first and foremost a business man so he needs to have good relations with Europe in order to make important trade deals not to mention retain US baseson their territory.
Musk is at the moment just a nasty trouble maker but if he continues down this route I assume some European countries will take this up with Trump. France is certainly not going to be a push over in this respect.