A Note to Elon Musk

FullFact.
fullfact.org/crime/grooming-gang-victims-musk-pearson-champion/

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

imaround

Elon donated 6 billion in stocks to his own foundation. Then he got in trouble 3 years in a row for not giving away the minimum amount required for charity. The minimum amount? 5%

He gave 6 billion to himself tax free.

www.nytimes.com/2024/12/12/us/politics/musk-foundation-taxes-donations.html

He and Trump have another thing in common then; Trump, Don Jr, Eric and Ivanka are all barred from running a charity due to financial irregularities.

Kandinsky

I know plenty of white men are child rapists, but in Rochdale the gangs were predominantly Pakistani men, deliberately targeting vulnerable white children. This is a fact.
I wonder if those defending these men would be so obliging if it had been predominantly white men targeting Pakistani children - I doubt it.
Some people are still more concerned about hurting the feelings of rapists.
It’s disgusting. .

How dare you suggest that some of us are defending these rapists!

Who is defending rapists?

BlueBelle

He’s a meddler, listening to his father speak on TV yesterday I can see where it comes from, a vile, far right man, highly opinionated and extremely racist.

This country needs to deal with ALL perpetrators white, brown or black I worked for 10 years with abuse survivors and none were abused by Muslims or any race other than white Caucasians, of course a lot depends on the demographics of the area.
I dealt with people abused by fathers, stepfathers, uncles, teachers (this was a ring) youth leaders, church officials and church goers never once a person other than white
A lot of very well thought of people many whose criminal behaviour CPS chose to ignore
I remember going to high court with one mum who started proceedings when her child became the age she was when she was regularly abused It was a jury we were hopeful they would see her ruined life, but they found a non guilty verdict because the woman could not remember the dates the abuse happened (30 years previous ) she knew it happened every time herMum went to her night job but not exact dates

ALL prosecutions are very overdue no matter whatever race religion or persuasion the abuser comes from

Very well said, I agree with every word!

Babs03

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

I agree. We should also question why people choose to believe anything which supports their ill founded beliefs, why a minority government is OK if it is a Tory one, but not if it is Labour one. Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

I know I asked that earlier, but unsurprisingly, answer came there none.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?

None, not one of us, is defending the “Pakistani Rape Gangs”, we are stating that actions, not inquiries, should be implemented, victims supported and perpetrators punished irrespective of their race/colour/nationality

Babs03

Who is defending rapists?

According to some, those on here who are pointing out the truth about the ethnicity of rapists are apologists. "Some people are still more concerned about hurting the feelings of rapists"

news.sky.com/story/amp/grooming-gangs-scandal-timeline-what-happened-what-inquiries-there-were-and-how-starmer-was-involved-after-elon-musks-accusations-13285021

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

HousePlantQueen

What truth are you pointing out about the ethnicity of these rapists?

Ps/
You might want to read Cossy’s link first.

Maremia

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

Good.

(I have read Cossy's link, don't get your point)

HousePlantQueen

Babs03

Is about time we all questionned how certain unelected people/interested parties manipulate our democracies. We know about Murdoch and other media moguls, also large corp, and now Musk. It seems that our votes come to nothing because we are governed by shadowy unelected individuals who dictate policy.
Has been like this for a long time but now Musk has served to illuminate it.
Has been a very long time since any government worked for the masses

I agree. We should also question why people choose to believe anything which supports their ill founded beliefs, why a minority government is OK if it is a Tory one, but not if it is Labour one. Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

I know I asked that earlier, but unsurprisingly, answer came there none.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?

^Why an unelected foreigner is suddenly entitled to interfere in democracy, but the EU commission is not.

Why is Musk a person to listen to, but Barnier is not?^

It's utterly absurd isn't it?

One of the reasons given for leaving the EU was sovereignty - not being 'told what to do' by Brussels.

Yet here we are with some championing the world's richest man who not only wants to decide which party governs our country, but seems to think he must have the right to decide who might lead whichever party he chooses to do it!

He has decided Farage is not the man, and that an ex football hooligan should be released pronto from prison in order to - as he (Musk) has predicted - one day become the UK's Prime Minister!

... am I living in a parallel universe? Did we 'take back' our sovereignty to hand it over to a very rich foreigner who clearly doesn't even understand how a constitutional Monarchy works?

The exploitation, abuse and rape of young girls is global - it's even worse in some other countries than it is here... where's the outrate and concern from Musk?

This is the man whose public response to criticism from a high profile woman in the entertainment industry, was to "offer" to give her a child.

... that's an age-old misogynist's way of putting a woman in her place - reminder her that he can, or threatening that he might - impregnate her, that he has sexual power over her.

He cares deeply about women and girls. Sure...

Maremia

Whitewavemark2, excellent post, and now the Security Services are checking his output to see if it breaches our laws.

And just what will happen? Are they wanting to extradite him? Of course not. Total waste of money. All they could do is ban him from entering the UK but I doubt he wants to come

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men, presumably himself included. In this republic women and low testosterone males would not be permitted to take part in any thought processes required in the running if such a republic.
So, yeah, a man who has a high regard for women…NOT.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-andrew-tate-4chan-x-twitter-high-status-males-b2606622.html

MaizieD

Here are some known and prosecuted members of child abuse gangs. Spot the Pakistani...

The Jay investigation and report highlighted that the Rotherham grooming gangs were predominantly Pakistani heritage men.Fact.
There were many others in various cities and towns that were the same, Oldham and Oxford amongst them.
Not wanting to talk about this racial aspect was the problem in all the cases at the time and maybe still is.

I’m not sure what the poster MaizieD is trying to do with that post?
Is he/she saying Pakistani men aren’t involved in child rape?
Really weird post.

Babs03

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men, presumably himself included. In this republic women and low testosterone males would not be permitted to take part in any thought processes required in the running if such a republic.
So, yeah, a man who has a high regard for women…NOT.

Well last year in September Musk voiced an interest in a Republic of high status alpha males, which is exactly as Andrew Tate refers to some men,...

Yes, Musk thought that was "interesting" so he amplified it the post by an account called "Autism Capital" which included a screenshot of a theory that referred to "people who can't defend themselves physically (women and low T men)," suggesting they are "very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus."

The post, from September 1, said that only "high T alpha males and aneurotypical people" are able to question new information, concluding, "This is why a Republic of high status males is best for decision making. Democratic, but a democracy only for those who are free to think."

The post was labelled "The Reich Effect", and was (I think) originally posted on 4chan some time previously.

Are you aware of the 4chan imageboard Babs03? It deserves thread of its own...

Anyway, it's garnered over 18 million views, but, I'm sure it's simply in the interests of 'free speech' and Musk doesn't really believe that women, and men who are not high-status alpha males are incapable of forming their own opinions.

You know, journalists, reporters, etc, in the mainstream media that Musk appears to despise and dismiss, usually - when they are going to make savage and critical claim against a person or an institution, etc, attempt to get their side of the story - you know, just in case they've missed a fact or two... Musk doesn't. He just launches an attack.

But, hey, he's just pushing ideas right?

No, she's saying all men are involved with rape and child sexual abuse.

(Maizie's picture post)

Wyllow3

No, she's saying all men are involved with rape and child sexual abuse.

And yet she chose to only show images of white men...............

I'd expect there to be more white men in total than other ethnicities given that we're still overall a majority white country, even if my area is almost an equal split. Posts like that of BlueBelle that say This country needs to deal with ALL perpetrators white, brown or black I worked for 10 years with abuse survivors and none were abused by Muslims or any race other than white Caucasians, give a very skewed perspective. That she never once encountered anybody who had been abused by a man other than white Caucasians (and there are white Muslims, even if they are fewer in number) must be unique or very nearly. It does nobody any favours to try to minimise abuse by any section of society.
In the case of Rochdale and similar areas the fact was that virtually only white girls were targeted. I don't recall any asian Muslim girls being the target of the abusers. That in itself suggests a racist attitude by the abusers.

She showed pictures of white men to balance the stereotype "it's all Pakistani" lodged in many peoples heads.

Wyllow3

She showed pictures of white men to balance the stereotype "it's all Pakistani" lodged in many peoples heads.

I don't agree. The "spot the Pakistani" was intended to suggest Pakistani men weren't abusers. Can you link to any victims of the Pakistani gangs who weren't white girls? Do you disagree that they targeted white girls and therefore demonstrated their racist attitudes?