78yr old woman is in prison through no fault of hers

NittWitt

Supporters of a 78yr old Bristol woman, recalled to prison because a Government contractor said they couldn’t find an electronic tag small enough for her wrist, are going to hold a silent, candlelit vigil [on Friday 10 Jan] outside the prison where she is being held.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/birthday-vigil-bristol-grandmother-prison-9841026?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0WyCXJHFWVQGOvSlGx7UYQxEDLrOrVP2uyY0l72yAvj0U9R9pT7NGftvo_aem_1sgkFpi9zyrN8Xz_0ODdcA

But it is through a "fault of her own" - she broke the law

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime, however old you are.

Jtojt. That is not the point. The point is that the authorities are punishing such minor crimes disproportionately .Man made climate change, and the usage of private cars , are political footballs . Right wing people are unwilling to change their luxuries in the public interest.

The other wrong is that prisons are unfit for purpose especially for the physically frail .

Babs, thank God for "silly old buggers" who risk all to demonstrate against far greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth!

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

Climate Change is upon us, and misguided though some of the protestors were in some of their actions, their cause is very real. I think the length of sentences they were given was disproportionate and at least they had the guts to do something.

Prison will not change their views, but cause them to be martyrs, and has brought them desired publicity.

Are some of the critics on here doing their bit to lower their carbon footprint I wonder?

What about those farmers who stopped ambulances getting through with their tractors. ? Jails are full to bursting and cost taxpayers billions. We are not benefitting by locking this woman up longer than bigger people . Its sizeist.

Caleo The other wrong is that prisons are unfit for purpose especially for the physically frail

So frail that she climbed a ladder to sit on the overhead gantry on a motorway? As for greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth yes appointments like your father's funeral, the birth of your baby, saying goodbye to your dying relative, that hospital appointment you've waited 6 months for and will now have another 6 month wait, just trivia like that.

vegansrock

What about those farmers who stopped ambulances getting through with their tractors. ? Jails are full to bursting and cost taxpayers billions. We are not benefitting by locking this woman up longer than bigger people . Its sizeist.

Can you link to the verified reports of these ambulances that were stopped by tractors please?

If they did then surely they too will face prosecution, especially if anyone died while being transported in a 'blues and twos' situation.

She doesn't need to be in prison, that's true.
She needs to be out, with a tag in place.

Her choice, I'd imagine, which she doesn't want, because that would inconvenience her.

This woman broke the law, alot of people were inconvenienced, and upset by what her and the other protesters did.
I care about climate change and try to do my bit like recycling and not buying more than I need too, but I do not break the law.
I do not endorse, support, or condone what this woman has done, she is, in my opinion, exactly where she should be.

vegansrock I've done my own search and yes I found footage of one ambulance impeded by the tractors. There is no excuse for this, the same as when JSO impeded an ambulance on Waterloo Bridge. The tailbacks caused by any protest that clogs our roads is inexcusable and the 'cause' of the protestors does not justify it no matter how right they think they are.

I'd suggest that if someone wholeheartedly believes in their cause, they'd be prepared to go to prison for it.
Not try and pull the "I'm just a frail little old lady" card to try and get around it.

Caleo

Babs, thank God for "silly old buggers" who risk all to demonstrate against far greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth!

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

Yes indeed Caleo. The power doesn’t lie with “silly old buggers” at all but with those who are making huge profits helping to poison the planet.

Farzanah

Caleo

Babs, thank God for "silly old buggers" who risk all to demonstrate against far greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth!

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

Yes indeed Caleo. The power doesn’t lie with “silly old buggers” at all but with those who are making huge profits helping to poison the planet.

I assume you don’t rely on oil or gas to heat your home because no alternative is available and that you’re not dependent on a petrol or diesel fuelled car because you don’t have access to public transport?

MissAdventure

I'd suggest that if someone wholeheartedly believes in their cause, they'd be prepared to go to prison for it.
Not try and pull the "I'm just a frail little old lady" card to try and get around it.

👏👏👏
In a nutshell!

Caleo

Babs, thank God for "silly old buggers" who risk all to demonstrate against far greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth!

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

And how exactly did they do that?
The CJS is responsible for justice in this country.

She is in prison because she was found guilty of a criminal offence, the maximum sentence for which is 10 years imprisonment.

rafichagran

This woman broke the law, alot of people were inconvenienced, and upset by what her and the other protesters did.
I care about climate change and try to do my bit like recycling and not buying more than I need too, but I do not break the law.
I do not endorse, support, or condone what this woman has done, she is, in my opinion, exactly where she should be.

I agree.

She has a medical condition meant the tag wouldn’t fit, she’s highly intelligent and she also knows non invasive peaceful protest has completely failed. It’s disgraceful she’s in prison, the world’s on fire and people are clueless as to how bad it’s going to get. We’ve already passed the minimum global warming limit so let’s see how she’s judged 10, 20 years from now when our children’s planet is in melt down

Nobody else with a medical condition has ever broken the law then, presumably?
No under 16s?
Nobody with an eating disorder?

I would be most interested to know what this medical condition is.

MissAdventure

Nobody else with a medical condition has ever broken the law then, presumably?
No under 16s?
Nobody with an eating disorder?

I would be most interested to know what this medical condition is.

Apparently she has a DVT in her leg for which she will get treatment in prison anyway.
(Discussed a bit earlier in the thread 🙂)

I'm presuming she has another leg.
And two very tiny wrists.

I'm presuming she has another leg.
As she managed to climb a motorway gantry.
Not something I'd attempt.

Frankly extraordinary disconnect between the final hour of life on this planet as we know it, and extreme lack of interest in the crisis which is the end of civilised life on Earth. Does no one understand that? Maybe people prefer to pretend it’s not happening, I don’t know

I’ll spell it out, it means (in our country, our lifetime): food and gas prices through the roof, floods, boiling heat waves, melting roads, failing infrastructure, endless migration, uninhabitable housing, contaminated water, no water, power cuts… that’s the future but also starting to happen now (see LA fires)

Does no one understand that?

Why would you say that?
Do you think disrupting and antagonising the public is the right way to win them over to their cause?
Childishly throwing orange paint around even on a sustainable garden?

Working in a grownup way might work, not stopping people visiting dying relatives, stopping people getting to vital appointments, key workers getting to work and generally acting like three year olds having tantrums and breaking the law.

There are so many wonderful, intelligent people who are conservationists, environmentalists and concerned for the future of our planet who are working tirelessly and without fanfare.

This woman and her group are just disruptive attention seekers and do nothing constructive; their actions are counter-productive

Caleo

Babs, thank God for "silly old buggers" who risk all to demonstrate against far greater evils than people missing appointments, and so forth!

This woman is in jail because the oil lobby is strong enough to enforce her imprisonment.

People dying on their own, cancer appointments missed, and goodness knows what other disasters they caused. Glad she's in jail, and she can serve her time. Won't wear a tag, she's is to blame for that also.