Why do you support Labour?

To Oreo.

I'd like to see what so many of us have suggested so many times - that for non- academic students there are courses relevant to future work.

As regards tribal behaviour and a choice for Labour, I feel very free to support or not support various specific choices or say "I agree with "x" strongly but they need to re set the details, and cannot recall anyone supporting Labour totally uncritically on GN.

Oreo

Casdon

Oreo

Indigo8

I have found several threads attacking Labour "goady" and one particularly offensive one is still running.

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Report anything goady and suspicious, if the mods agree it will vanish, if not it won’t.

I think a lot of us are bigger than that. Goady posts show up the poster for who they are, and nobody is obliged to reply in like vein. If there were no goady posts it would be a lot more constructive on here, but also much duller.

Yet the poster is complaining about ‘offensive’ threads so perhaps should complain where it matters to her.

You consider goading threads and posts exciting?I’d prefer dull and constructive.

I’d prefer constructive posts too Oreo, I’m often accused of taking things too seriously on here because I do like a detailed political discussion. The danger is though that if there were no goady posts less people would be attracted to join in discussions, it would become an echo chamber.

If Latin is being freed as an extra, but not as part of the curriculum, that is absolutely as it should be.

I would hope it is making room for other more valuable subjects.

In my family I have doctors, lawyers, biologists, scientists.

Not a single one took Latin as an option to further their career option.

Really?
What choices and policies put forward do you not agree with?
All that I have seen is the WFA which has almost universally been dissed in the way that it was done.
I’m hopeful overall but after the celebrations when Labour got in six months ago it’s been one thing after another.The thousands given for new glasses, suits and dresses was yet another groan from me.The Budget was another.

Beeches

Shinamae you got so angry earlier the moderator removed your comment, time for bed I think - sleep well

Yes but your whole thread was removed.

I think that top trumps Shinamae.

P.S You obviously missed the thread on paragraphs.

Sago 😂😂😂😂

I don't think that Latin was ever taught as a mainstream subject in the state system except in Grammar Schools.

Nearly every Latin text book that was passed down to me from year to year contained the verse:-

"Latin is a language as dead as dead can be
It killed off all the Romans and now it's killing me."

Oreo from my post yesterday 19.02, note the comment in brackets:

They have shown some commitment to re-distribution of wealth e.g. means testing the WFA; removing the tax break for private schools; revising the unequal inheritance tax enjoyed be farmers. (I would like them to go even further in the area of wealth distribution). Those with the broadest shoulders should contribute more to society

I am for broadening young minds and giving them choices of subjects they wish to study in year 9 and above (exam years) not narrowing them and removing options.

I am not advocating that Latin should be part of the national curriculum, but why should only the elite schools and pupils have the option of studying it?

I just think its time, and resources, and difficult choices, given the range of subjects and topics that different people think "should" be available as part of the curriculum at year 9.
Ask different educationalists and you'll get different answers...

Oreo

The voter/member of any political party who can’t bring themselves to disagree with any of the choices and policies put forward is acting in a tribal way, it happens and you see it on many forums.

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Grannygravy I’m sure the rest of us want the best opportunities for all children. I’m struggling with adding Latin to a curriculum weighted to academic subjects. We have many children who feel like failures because of dyslexia, adhd, dyspraxia, neglectful home lives -I’m sure you recognise this but I can’t not fkag

I wouldn’t add Latin as compulsory. I did it as an option. If we’d been offered a wider choice of languages I’d probably have chosen one of those.
I agree about the curriculum already being packed with academic subjects which may prove to be totally unnecessary.

Iam64

Grannygravy I’m sure the rest of us want the best opportunities for all children. I’m struggling with adding Latin to a curriculum weighted to academic subjects. We have many children who feel like failures because of dyslexia, adhd, dyspraxia, neglectful home lives -I’m sure you recognise this but I can’t not fkag

I think our education system needs a total rethink.

There should be an option to choose Trades as well as GCSE subjects in year 9.

The system as it stands just sets up a percentage of our young people to fail, that feeling of failure can remain throughout their lives.

Now I have to comment - one of my sons had a form of visual dyslexia and had not the slightest interest in learning Latin. So he didn’t. My other sons had no problem at all with Latin. So that was that. I can’t understand why when the Conservative government introduced Latin to State schools, the Labour Party takes it away. Equal opportunities my …..

ronib

Now I have to comment - one of my sons had a form of visual dyslexia and had not the slightest interest in learning Latin. So he didn’t. My other sons had no problem at all with Latin. So that was that. I can’t understand why when the Conservative government introduced Latin to State schools, the Labour Party takes it away. Equal opportunities my …..

I would hazard a guess levelling down

Perspective. When Williamson announced the LEP in 2021 the subject was being taught at just 2.7 per cent of state schools. So we are blaming Labour for overseeing a decline in Latin education.

Casdon

Perspective. When Williamson announced the LEP in 2021 the subject was being taught at just 2.7 per cent of state schools. So we are blaming Labour for overseeing a decline in Latin education.

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Casdon

Perspective. When Williamson announced the LEP in 2021 the subject was being taught at just 2.7 per cent of state schools. So we are blaming Labour for overseeing a decline in Latin education.

I am not blaming Labour for the decline in Latin education.

I am blaming Labour for removing choice.

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

Perspective. When Williamson announced the LEP in 2021 the subject was being taught at just 2.7 per cent of state schools. So we are blaming Labour for overseeing a decline in Latin education.

I am not blaming Labour for the decline in Latin education.

I am blaming Labour for removing choice.

I blame Labour for forcing Welsh on all schoolchildren in Wales.
There should be choice.

Equal opportunities as set out by the Conservatives over the last 14 years 🙈😂👨🏻‍🎓😢

Iam64

Equal opportunities as set out by the Conservatives over the last 14 years 🙈😂👨🏻‍🎓😢

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The other problem, of course, is the massive teacher shortage in some subjects. One of these is the struggle to find teachers of Modern Foreign Languages in the UK. Where are you going to find enough qualified teachers of Latin?
My Spanish granddaughter does have to do "Latin" as part of her post-16 Bachillerato. It appears to consist entirely of the study of classical civilisation.

I agree with GG13 on "Trades".

It simply isn't possible to fund everything people want!