Badenoch admits that there was no plan.

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

I assume that the Conservatives are regrouping after their trouncing at the GE.

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

Terribly. An utter embarrassment.

That is why they are so quiet. But I guess there is behind the scenes panic trying to find someone of any real weight and authority.

Goodness knows who.

As maybe suggested - Johnson got rid of the real Tories.

I have no idea at all of a coherent cabinet and strategy, just what jumps out at PMQ's and other brief forays like the attempt last week to sabotage the Child Protection Bill.

GrannyGravy13

Parsley3

The media are quite quiet on how Badenoch is doing as Leader of the Opposition. How is she doing? I have no idea.

I assume that the Conservatives are regrouping after their trouncing at the GE.

The trouble is that the remaining Conservative MPs are a motley crew. I really don't see a natural leader amongst any of them. James Cleverly is IMO the best of the bunch (and I don't rate him very highly), but he's already been rejected. Badenoch is a loose cannon and I honestly can't see the Conservatives winning a GE with her as leader.

Like previous poster, I knew this already. I had the most horrible sinking feeling when I saw the faces of Gove and Johnson after they won. We had politicians consumed with their own egos and arrogance and they led us into a massive mistake. The vote should never have taken place. This country ( UK) will never be the same.

Brexit was a disaster manufactured by the Tories at every stage. They should be ashamed.

I would say that Badenoch is too busy sparring with Farage to be effective as opposition leader. I can't believe that the once mighty Conservative Party has been reduced to fighting for its very existence and I couldn't name a Tory with the chops to turn its fortunes round. We live in interesting times.

Whitewavemark2

We always knew that to be the case.

What is different is that the Tories are finally admitting the truth.

Oh for goodness sake. We all knew this. Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

Not at all. If someone criticises something the current government has done on a key issue, its reasonable to ask,

"well, what would you have done that was more effective"

Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

But Freya, we haven’t brought it up ‘to take the heat off Labour’!!!

Badenoch has said the Tories had no plan for life outside the UK - this thread is responding to her comment.

This is the second time I’ve posted this here🤷‍♀️

Oops - life outside the EU (Freudian slip?)

Freya5

Whitewavemark2

We always knew that to be the case.

What is different is that the Tories are finally admitting the truth.

Oh for goodness sake. We all knew this. Anything at all to take the heat from the disaster that is this Labour Gov.

Nope - merely responding to Badenoch’s latest gem.

She is the gift that keeps on giving😄😄😄

eazybee

Still attacking Boris Johnson in an attempt to divert attention from the economic disaster unfolding now as a result of the incompetents that Labour supporters inflicted on the country.

The economic disaster started with Johnson so attacking him is an entirely reasonable stance. Labour are left to pick up his pieces.

Whichever way people voted on Brexit, they were entitled to assume that there were sound plans in place for either result. The Tories were playing political games with the country's future - they should be thoroughly ashamed.

Parsley3

I would say that Badenoch is too busy sparring with Farage to be effective as opposition leader. I can't believe that the once mighty Conservative Party has been reduced to fighting for its very existence and I couldn't name a Tory with the chops to turn its fortunes round. We live in interesting times.

It isn’t just Badenoch. The Conservative Party has been sparring with Farage for years. It’s why Cameron called the EU referendum. Johnson slipped into the leadership with all the mayhem that was created and did even more damage to the party. If it hurts me, a lifelong Labour voter, to see what has happened to the Tories I can’t imagine how they feel. I give Badenoch 12 months max. But have got no idea who can replace her.

I am so very much hoping that the Tories won’t turn to Farage in desperation, for lack of a good leader.

They have inflicted so many duds on us lately, like Johnson, Truss and Sunak and now Badenoch.

If anyone sums up the Conservatives Party to me it’s Dominic Grieve. Such a decent politician who fell foul of Brexit and Johnson. He always looks like a haunted man to me ( I know he has that sort of demeanour anyway). I think it’s broken his heart watching his party destroy itself.

They might just do that, unfortunately WWM2.

Parsley3

They might just do that, unfortunately WWM2.

If they do though, the centre ground Tories are going to defect because Farage is anathema to them, and many voters will be lost too.
I don't agree with her politics, but I do admire Badenough’s honesty, I think what you is what you get with her.

I agree that the best Tories were eliminated by Johnson. We need more centrists to balance out the hard right. I can remember when, though I would never vote Tory, I actually liked some Tory ministers, and could find common ground. That was decades ago sadly.

LizzieDrip

Johnson, Farage, Gove, Cummings to name just 4, led this country blindfolded into the greatest economic disaster of the 21st (and 20th) Century.

I will NEVER forget the looks on the faces of Johnson and Gove the morning after the referendum result. As they got into a car they were surrounded by reporters asking “so, now you’ve won the referendum, what’s the plan”? I have never seen two more frightened individuals - rabbits in headlights doesn’t even come close.

Shame on them!

At least Badenoch has owned up to what many of us already knew - there was no plan! … although she was part of the government that kept dragging it through.

I will NEVER forgive the Tories and Farage for taking MY country out of the EU.

Well said and I wholeheartedly agree.

Whitewavemark2

I am so very much hoping that the Tories won’t turn to Farage in desperation, for lack of a good leader.

They have inflicted so many duds on us lately, like Johnson, Truss and Sunak and now Badenoch.

God help us all if they do!

Thanks Babs03, exactly how I feel. Many of our Conservative friends and family feel the same, and are totally poilitically 'homeless' now. They will never ever join Farage and co- nor could they join Labour. In some areas, they will join Lib-dems, but mostly, they will just abstain.

They are all the same, each out looking out for themselves, couldn't give two hoots about the electors.

All the current Tories, yes.

Perhaps if they all got on with what they are paid for (including heating in cold weather) which is Governing this Country, instead of the perpetual playing of the blame game, we might be in a better place. They are all - whatever Party - acting with such childish pettiness it gets boring!