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Badenoch admits that there was no plan.

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 16-Jan-25 16:15:08

The Tories owe every Brexit voter an apology for admitting that they voted for a pig in a poke - there was never and never has been any pan.

What a shower her government is.

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 16:33:25

wibblywobblywobblebottom

Who's Badenoch???

Who indeed!

Badenoch wasn't an MP in 2016.
She became a London Assembly member in 2015 by default.
She did support Brexit in the EU Referendum so why? There was no exit plan.
She hacked into Harriet Harman's website when she was younger, a matter which was reported to Action Fraud.
She received adequate results for her 'A' levels in the UK but claimed she was a 'straight A student but that no-one in the British education system pushed her' 🤔

Now she's leader of the Conservative party.

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 16:34:49

petra

wibblywobblywobblebottom

Who's Badenoch???

That was a tongue in cheek question, wasn’t it?

See my post for anyone who's been living under a rock 😁

petra Sat 18-Jan-25 16:39:10

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

petra Sat 18-Jan-25 16:41:56

Allira

petra

wibblywobblywobblebottom

Who's Badenoch???

That was a tongue in cheek question, wasn’t it?

See my post for anyone who's been living under a rock 😁

That must have been a rock in a far off galaxy. 😂

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 16:42:01

Oh, I forgot.

When she was a child she was 'middle class' but when she was 16 she became 'working class' by working part-time in McDonalds.
However, a year later she became middle class again because John Prescott was reported to say 'We're all middle class now', although John said that Tony Blair said it, not him. 🙂
I'm inclined to believe John.

Hope this all helps.

MayBee70 Sat 18-Jan-25 16:56:52

petra

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

There are people that are concerned about illegal immigration. I’m probably one of them to be perfectly honest. But there are also people that approach it purely from a position of racism and xenophobia; the sort of people that were in the BNP and its later incarnations. I do think there’s racism in Sweden but, being honest again, it’s only from watching Scandi noir programmes.

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 17:16:06

MayBee70

petra

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

There are people that are concerned about illegal immigration. I’m probably one of them to be perfectly honest. But there are also people that approach it purely from a position of racism and xenophobia; the sort of people that were in the BNP and its later incarnations. I do think there’s racism in Sweden but, being honest again, it’s only from watching Scandi noir programmes.

Most of these extreme right fascist parties seem to die a death. From the BNP arose True Brits (I think) but are they still in existence?
Brexiteers and even the far right Reform are not in the same category as those extremists.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Jan-25 17:22:55

That isn’t quite right, as a faction of Reform supports Tommy Robinson, the AfD and the Austrian fascists.

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 17:25:53

Is that general or a splinter group?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Jan-25 17:28:51

General - Farage has distanced himself, because he is following his own agenda, but there is a large majority of the reform group who support the neo-Nazis.

MayBee70 Sat 18-Jan-25 17:33:13

Allira

MayBee70

petra

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

There are people that are concerned about illegal immigration. I’m probably one of them to be perfectly honest. But there are also people that approach it purely from a position of racism and xenophobia; the sort of people that were in the BNP and its later incarnations. I do think there’s racism in Sweden but, being honest again, it’s only from watching Scandi noir programmes.

Most of these extreme right fascist parties seem to die a death. From the BNP arose True Brits (I think) but are they still in existence?
Brexiteers and even the far right Reform are not in the same category as those extremists.

They are in the same category.They just change their name because they have to.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 18-Jan-25 17:37:45

MayBee70 are you really implying that those who voted to leave the EU are in the same league as facists, BNP and other far right extremists?

Unbelievable!

Mollygo Sat 18-Jan-25 18:34:55

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 are you really implying that those who voted to leave the EU are in the same league as facists, BNP and other far right extremists?

Unbelievable!

I pointed that implication out earlier, but the answer was that it was only some people.

MayBee70 Sat 18-Jan-25 18:41:38

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 are you really implying that those who voted to leave the EU are in the same league as facists, BNP and other far right extremists?

Unbelievable!

No. Just that people from those organisations would have voted leave and that it empowered them.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Jan-25 18:45:46

MayBee70

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70 are you really implying that those who voted to leave the EU are in the same league as facists, BNP and other far right extremists?

Unbelievable!

No. Just that people from those organisations would have voted leave and that it empowered them.

Yes. Nationalism and the far right are bedfellows

Oreo Sat 18-Jan-25 18:50:11

MayBee70

petra

MayBee70

Imo the referendum tapped into the racism and xenophobia that existed in this country. And, sadly, still does….

Would you say Swedes were racist. If you read this article it would appear Sweden have thought long and hard on how to resolve their problems with immigration.

www.government.se/government-policy/swedens-new-migration-policy/

There are people that are concerned about illegal immigration. I’m probably one of them to be perfectly honest. But there are also people that approach it purely from a position of racism and xenophobia; the sort of people that were in the BNP and its later incarnations. I do think there’s racism in Sweden but, being honest again, it’s only from watching Scandi noir programmes.

Of course there is racism and xenophobia in Sweden and in all other European countries too ( all in the world) and there is also growing dismay at the high levels of immigration which is a different thing altogether.

Oreo Sat 18-Jan-25 18:55:40

Allira

Oh, I forgot.

When she was a child she was 'middle class' but when she was 16 she became 'working class' by working part-time in McDonalds.
However, a year later she became middle class again because John Prescott was reported to say 'We're all middle class now', although John said that Tony Blair said it, not him. 🙂
I'm inclined to believe John.

Hope this all helps.

Phew 😄my head hurts.
Does that mean I’m middle class ? Does it mean I can’t drink a beer from the bottle or put a milk bottle on the table? Should I say serviette or napkin?Am I sitting in the front room or the lounge, or God forbid the drawing room?Please help me with such matters Allira before I do something wrong.🤔🤭

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 20:09:16

😁
May I recommend The Ladies' Book of Etiquette and Manual of Politeness.
I fear you are in need of such tutelage.

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 20:10:16

Am I sitting in the front room or the lounge, or God forbid the drawing room?

The sitting room, dear, always the sitting room.

Mollygo Sat 18-Jan-25 21:33:48

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

Allira Sat 18-Jan-25 22:18:03

Mollygo

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

😁
Presumably one dined in the dining room, cooked in the kitchen, slept in the bedroom and bathed in the bathroom.

nanna8 Sun 19-Jan-25 09:55:38

You mean the family room or the rumpus room ? Or maybe the lounge? Or the entertainment room ?

Allira Sun 19-Jan-25 11:08:24

nanna8

You mean the family room or the rumpus room ? Or maybe the lounge? Or the entertainment room ?

The sitting room was very sedate 😀

But now it's just the tv/craft/snooze/visitors' etc room.

MaizieD Sun 19-Jan-25 11:11:01

Mollygo

The sitting room-so named because all others were standing room only?

I always thought that it was called that because the Parlour was only used for 'best' and the rest of the time the family used another room to sit in... the sitting room...

Allira Sun 19-Jan-25 11:41:16

The Parlour was for chatting, I think, for entertaining visitors.

Is it from the French parler?