Musk’s salute.

Oh well that clinches it then.
I am hoping all this is just a reaction to the Trump victory and that after a suitable period of processing people get round to examining why they lost. If they continue behaving like this I can see the Republicans being in power for a long time.

I just wonder how much longer Musk will be Trumps favourite toy when the man seems to be in the limelight so much, more than Trump in fact, and whether is negative or positive publicity Trump wants all possible attention on him.
I imagine this will all end in tears before bedtime.

Allira

Claremont

Allira

the bandwagon of prejudice & ignorance

Really??

oh the incredible irony

Excuse me?

Exactly what do you mean by your post? Are you accusing me of something?

If not then please clarify.

Please think about it- we are talking here about the start of a new era of Trump and Vance, supported by Musk.

Really people need to not be led by the nose by the media. Look at the whole speech. He clearly was holding his heart then stretched out his arm to share his heart with the crowd.
One photograph taken totally out of context and people (some people!) are up in arms.
This just proves how easily people (some people!) are manipulated by the media

No - I disagree, in this case, context is the key.

Whitewavemark2

No - I disagree, in this case, context is the key.

That's what I've been saying too - it's not just one gesture taken in isolation.

Having watched the video clip I don’t think it was a Nazi salute. I think it was yet another media beat up. They love to attack right wing types, quite boring really.

I have just watched the full clip, he was touching his heart then extending his arm saying my heart goes out to you.
Always look at the full context the media are so good at sending the wrong message to further their biased views.

Whitewavemark2

No - I disagree, in this case, context is the key.

And his political affiliations of the past, near and far.

my heart goes out to you.

Usually one would say "My heart goes out to you" when you feel sorry for someone.

nanna8

Having watched the video clip I don’t think it was a Nazi salute. I think it was yet another media beat up. They love to attack right wing types, quite boring really.

I'm not convinced it was meant as a Nazi salute either. I'm trying to be objective.

However, when you say I think it was yet another media beat up. They love to attack right wing types, are you aware that here in the UK, The Mail, Express, Sun and Telegraph - all Right-wing leaning media - have a combined circulation of roughly 1.8 million copies; and that only the Daily Mirror and The Guardian are broadly Left-wing, with a combined circulation of roughly 300,000?

The Times, Sunday Times and Evening Standard are more middle of the road in their political coverage - though they all endorsed the Conservative party during the previous general election.

That means our press is more Right-wing than Left.

Musk's gesture is clearly open to interpretation, but it is definitely reminiscent of the Nazi salute, so I don't think there's any reason why the media, Right or Left, shouldn't question it.

Another aspect of this is that controversial headlines sell newspapers, hard copies and online subscriptions. The bigger the readership, the bigger the advertising revenue.

So it's not really a question of the media 'attacking right wing types' at all, since the media is predominantly right-wing - but even they are questioning the salute, as they know their readers will, so are capitalising on the matter.

I agree Dickens..though I was a bit dismayed by Ed Davey's article about it..

bee16B

On the spectrum my arse.

While I do believe he has stated that he is on the spectrum. I find the discourse of using that as an excuse exceptionally problematic. Using Austism as an excuse is disgusting and puts a lot of wonderful humans who happen to be on the spectrum in danger.

I would have thought on the spectrum my arse doesnt help them much either.

Summerlove

bee16B

On the spectrum my arse.

While I do believe he has stated that he is on the spectrum. I find the discourse of using that as an excuse exceptionally problematic. Using Austism as an excuse is disgusting and puts a lot of wonderful humans who happen to be on the spectrum in danger.

If he really does have autism it does explain the childish overreaction and excitement he exhibits.I don’t think anyone on here can say he doesn’t have it definitively.
I would say those of us who don’t see it as a N salute are not excusing him but just don’t see it that way.

He has responded

GrannyGravy13

He has responded

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Succeed in in all the ways Nazi Germany failed to.

Well, that could be open to many interpretations.

Failed to exterminate all Jews, Roma and disabled people and to conquer Europe?

MaizieD

^Succeed in in all the ways Nazi Germany failed to.^

Well, that could be open to many interpretations.

Failed to exterminate all Jews, Roma and disabled people and to conquer Europe?

I have no idea how to interpret EL’s response.

I posted it as many on this thread have been asking/wondering if he has/would respond to the accusations regarding his salute

I know why you posted it, but the words were emphasised. Which immediately makes one wonder what Must was regretting about Germany’s failure.

I apologise if my response was not in the best of taste, but what else could he possibly be regretting? After all, Germany has been a vert successful country post WW2, but Musk is close to the AfD.

Musk, of course, not Must…

GrannyGravy13

He has responded

My goodness, that is sinister.

Apartheid in South AFrica, that his parents supported strongly and that he grew up in, was not that long ago.

Claremont

Allira

Claremont

Allira

the bandwagon of prejudice & ignorance

Really??

oh the incredible irony

Excuse me?

Exactly what do you mean by your post? Are you accusing me of something?

If not then please clarify.

Please think about it- we are talking here about the start of a new era of Trump and Vance, supported by Musk.

And - exactly why are you accusing me of irony?

Please clarify.

Indieanne

Ladies please don’t jump on the bandwagon of prejudice & ignorance … research various media outlets & post your own opinion when you come to your own conclusion. Elon Musk has autism so that is why he may appear a bit different. That is why he expresses himself a bit more enthusiastically sometimes, as he did the other day celebrating President Trump’s inauguration. You probably didn’t see the whole context of the video where he put his hand on his heart then threw his arm out at the crowd exclaiming “Thank you for making this happen” to the crowd. Then he turned around repeating the same “Thank you & heart gesture” to those behind him. I’m sorry many of you see things differently; but freedom of speech is one of Elon Musk’s passion in life, so he probably wouldn’t object to your comments - maybe just feel sad. Isn’t that why he bought Twitter - now known as “X”.

Claremont

If you read the post which preceded mine you might realise the context before making an unfounded accusation.

Thank you.