What is it with men? Some men, perhaps, but TOO MANY

HIS mental health… - really?

Don’t get me started on “that” excuse, it is a slap in the face to all with genuine MH problems.
Another particular bugbear of mine

“Nessa” sends it up rather well

There are many terms that originate from porn that have crept into common use, it’s pretty disgusting to our generation, teens have to cope on an everyday basis. Girls have to cope with boys that watch porn and use that language and have fantasies that are disgusting.

It’s a consequence of society allowing porn and violence to become widespread, WE have allowed it to happen by not upholding standards of decency 20 yrs ago we could have set restrictions on content.

He seemed an unpleasant character on Strictly. His partner didn't seem very comfortable with the way he held on to her and remarks made. Allowing him to be a part of the Strictly tour gives out the wrong message. He can say sorry all he likes but he is one of those men who think it acceptable to demean women.
The thought of being in a spit roast with him!!! I'll leave my breakfast till later. Urgh!

Yes it is 'porn' language.

I’ve heard it once many years ago, a male colleague having “banter” with me in the work place.

BlueBelle: A few years ago, I had a similar reaction from my DS and DSiL when I happened to say in conversation: “Doesn’t every home have a gloryhole?”

Such a shame that a very apt word, in its original usage, now has other connotations. Equally, I was unaware of the unsavoury interpretation of spit roast until I read this thread.

I recognised the term and know what it means.

However, wherever I picked that knowledge up, and I cannot remember where or when, it absolutely did not come from any man in my family.

I must say, like others, I cannot understand, given the current attitude to gross sexual banter and touching, why these men, like Davies and Wallace consciously throw their whole lucrative away, to make these unpleasant remarks.

Strangely enough on social media he has a huge amount of support everyone saying things like ‘can't say anything these days’ ‘leave him alone’ ‘stop putting him down nothing wrong with him’ ‘blooming woke’ and a number of these when read in context are obviously from older people as well as young

I had only heard the term in reference to cooking. I looked it up and that what came up, how to cook meat. Looking at your posts I’ve drawn my own conclusions.
I worry about what our impressionable youngsters are watching, see to much porn and I guess you become desensitised. I have never watched any and don't want to, prefer a gardening programme or interesting.
These stupid men giving up a profitable tv career and losing any reputation they had, for what. Do they think they sound man of the world or just a grubb aging man with insecurities. Thank goodness there's more decent people,

I just think some men feel entitled to say what they want, it all comes back to the old freedom of speech argument, or the WOKE accusation, with some men believing they are being penalised for not being able to say or do as they wish, even though they are quite openly being misogynistic.the same goes for those who make racist remarks when discussing immigration. They also tend to take the high ground saying there is no freedom of speech.
I think some just want the freedom to insult, offend, and denigrate others without blame.
And if I am WOKE for saying this, though goodness knows what that actually means, then so be it.

What a crude and nasty term to use, gutter brain, I bet he won’t use it again

I wouldn’t bet on it. The man clearly has no filter.

Never heard of it before, but what a very stupid man he is. Hes overweight, over bloated ego, and thinks he’s hilariously funny. . .

Babs03

I just think some men feel entitled to say what they want, it all comes back to the old freedom of speech argument, or the WOKE accusation, with some men believing they are being penalised for not being able to say or do as they wish, even though they are quite openly being misogynistic.the same goes for those who make racist remarks when discussing immigration. They also tend to take the high ground saying there is no freedom of speech.
I think some just want the freedom to insult, offend, and denigrate others without blame.
And if I am WOKE for saying this, though goodness knows what that actually means, then so be it.

I agree Babs03
I think he's been behaving like this for decades but it's only come to light now that he has a more visible profile. Some men like to take risks and/or see how much they can get away with.

When picked up on it, they say it's "only banter", or accuse the woman of not being able to take a joke, or nowadays claim there's no freedom of speech, as you say Babs03.

My "inner radar" went off when he appeared on Strictly. My daughter and I agree that there was just something slimy about him so we weren't at all surprised by the "incident of the creeping hand on Katya's stomach" on Strictly.

I think he should be taken off the Strictly tour. The producers are trying to make sure the programme is squeaky clean after the Amanda Abbington episode so they must be seen to act.

I didn't know what his comment meant but Aljaz asked his wife if she was ok after he heard Wynne's remark, so clearly he was annoyed about it (and perhaps aware of Wynne's general behaviour)

I checked out the link to find out what the comment meant and it was even more revolting than I'd feared, and disgustingly inappropriate when lining up for a group Strictly photo.

Sarnia

He seemed an unpleasant character on Strictly. His partner didn't seem very comfortable with the way he held on to her and remarks made. Allowing him to be a part of the Strictly tour gives out the wrong message. He can say sorry all he likes but he is one of those men who think it acceptable to demean women.
The thought of being in a spit roast with him!!! I'll leave my breakfast till later. Urgh!

Agree.
Time for him to go compare😖

Disgusting. I hope this is the end of his career. Unfortunately I expect many men do think along the same lines, but not many are stupid enough to voice their thoughts like that.

Someone else who'd never heard of this and neither had Mr. S.
'Another one bites the dust' and good riddance.

OMG! I'd never heard of either of these 2 people so I Googled them.

Janette is a beautiful looking lady!

That Evan's creep is revolting to say such things about ANY woman, no matter what she looks like.

I knew of the term spit roast, as in meat on a spit, but I didn't know it also means .... other things.... disgusting and pornographic stuff.

He should be sacked and apparently he'd also been in trouble beforehand...

Shelflife

Never heard of that term !

I had to explain the term to DH.

They do say "To the pure all things are pure".

Surely you would have to be quite "worldly" to understand what it means. I only know about it indirectly through the work I used to do with less fortunate members of the public.

I must be 'worldly' then, because I knew what it meant.

Women have to speak up and so should men.

This is not acceptable in the workplace or anywhere.

Whenever celebrities get themselves into a mess these days, the 'mental health' card is usually played. I'm not saying he hasn't got problems but as someone who has suffered terribly with my mental health, I just hope they are not 'using' it but I fear some are. It's a bandwagon lately.

I don't know what angers me the most, the arrogance of some men in the public eye who think they are untouchable and can say what they like, or the stupid people defending them with all the "woke nonsense" and "you can't say anything these days". I wonder what his defenders would say if this vulgar and offensive language was aimed at their daughter

I had never heard of it. I used to like Wynne, but now think he must be an idiot to ruin his career like this. What on earth is he thinking? We will no longer put up with this sort of treatment from men.

ViceVersa

I must be 'worldly' then, because I knew what it meant.

Nothing wrong with being "worldly" VV.