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What is it with men? Some men, perhaps, but TOO MANY

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RosiesMaw2 Mon 27-Jan-25 23:16:58

Wynne Evans has stepped away from his BBC radio programme after making an “inappropriate and unacceptable” remark towards a Strictly Come Dancing presenter
Evans, the opera singer and star of the Go Compare adverts, was caught on camera appearing to use the term “spit roast” in reference to Janette Manrara, who is hosting the Strictly live tour.
The incident happened during a photocall for the tour in Birmingham, as Ms Manrara stood between Evans and Jamie Borthwick, another Strictly contestant. Borthwick did not take part in the exchange
I am proud to say it would not have occurred to DH or indeed any men in my family to use that sort of language.
D1 and GD (10) went to the Strictly Live show 10 days ago, with friends, also with a 10 year old daughter.
GD loved it but if she had caught any of the interview what on earth could we have said to her?

surfingsal Tue 28-Jan-25 10:20:07

Silly man has just ruined his career and there are other men who have been equally stupid and should be ashamed of setting such a bad example to younger men and girls. My eldest daughter works with teenagers and young adults with all sorts of problem's and she said the language that comes out of the mouths of the girls is beyond disgusting , she heard one of the girls she had been working with tell a policeman to do something so revolting I won't put it on here, so it is not just some of the male population using inappropriate language but also a lot of females but we never seem to hear about them as much.

bluebird243 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:22:49

I heard this term in the year 2000. There are many other 'terms' in circulation which many may not have heard of...yet...it all comes from a world most of us would rather not know about.

Unspeakable behaviour [not just words], I'm afraid is common place in the world, just usually underground. Think of the grooming gangs, the Pelicot case, etc. etc.

If you have never been in an all male work environment or a team dressing room you wouldn't know how a lot of men [not all of course] talk about women, even their partners, and many sex acts in a very, derogatory way. You'd be appalled.

Apart from other sources I've heard it all from the horse's mouth so to speak. A male who is nauseated by the things he has heard other men say.

bluebird243 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:26:37

Of course women can be particularly crude, I agree [I've known a female who is a great example of that]...I have just commented on the male way of being offensive as re; the title of the thread.

Pantglas2 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:32:11

He has a daughter. Wouldn’t you think that’d give him pause?

Jaxjacky Tue 28-Jan-25 10:41:13

I know of the term, he’s a small man trying to be big and failing.
I think you could honestly have said to your granddaughter you didn’t know Maw if she even noticed.

Elegran Tue 28-Jan-25 10:45:13

Sparklefizz "I didn't know what his comment meant but Aljaz asked his wife if she was ok after he heard Wynne's remark, so clearly he was annoyed about it (and perhaps aware of Wynne's general behaviour)" In previous centuries the reaction of a husband would have been to step forward, punch him in the jaw and tell him "You don't treat MY wife like that!" or make a date to meet him at dawn next day with pistols at the ready.

The husband would have had the approval of everyone else.

Babs03 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:46:49

I hadn’t heard of the term used had to google it, now I know I wish I didn’t.

Elegran Tue 28-Jan-25 10:50:27

I didn't even bother to Google it - I don't need to know. I is enough to be aware that anyone using it without the cooking meaning is not someone whose company I want to continue.

TerriBull Tue 28-Jan-25 10:54:21

I echo Kate's comment re "mental health" yawn! I'd just add another yawn! Isn't it incredible the reach mental health has these days, make an unacceptable sexist remark, drive whilst on a drink drive ban, shop lifting sprees, glassing someone with a bottle. All down to the perpetrators' mh, funny because once such actions used to be called bad/unacceptable behaviour.

MayBee70 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:55:56

Babs03

I hadn’t heard of the term used had to google it, now I know I wish I didn’t.

Me too.

Indigo8 Tue 28-Jan-25 10:57:33

What I don't like about the expression is that, to my mind, it smacks of the murky world of the Manosphere where women are despised, abused and used.

I know women can be foul mouthed as well but I don't know of any high profile women who have been accused of inappropriate language or behaviour (yet).

TerriBull Tue 28-Jan-25 11:00:46

I heard the term sometime ago when a group of footballers were accused of treating women in that way. Appalling, any man who thinks that's some sort of joke clearly has absolutely no respect for their female counterparts

Dickens Tue 28-Jan-25 11:14:07

MountainAsh

Never heard of it. I hate all this”woke” nonsense.

I'm not convinced you understand the meaning of the word "woke".

Are you saying the phrase you've never heard of is woke - or the reaction to its usage?

If the latter, I suggest you look up its meaning and see how you'd feel if your daughter or grand daughter was referred to in such a way.

ferry23 Tue 28-Jan-25 11:32:14

Taking part in Masterchef and then Strictly must have really elevated his public profile. Suddenly people knew he was away from his "Go Compare" persona - I expect in his mind he's now a celebrity and he can play the big man and he expects everyone to think he's funny and worldly wise.

He may think all that but I now think he's just a sleazebag.

Boz Tue 28-Jan-25 12:06:56

ferry23

Taking part in Masterchef and then Strictly must have really elevated his public profile. Suddenly people knew he was away from his "Go Compare" persona - I expect in his mind he's now a celebrity and he can play the big man and he expects everyone to think he's funny and worldly wise.

He may think all that but I now think he's just a sleazebag.

Precisely. These inadequate little men are elevated to a degree that they think they can say anything for a laugh.
I wonder who will trill us to Go Compare now. I suggest a nice little dog; elevate the ad..

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:20:11

I looked it up on Urban Dictionary when I heard it.

Kate1949 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:30:06

He's been sacked from the Strictly tour after 'repeated warnings'.

leeds22 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:41:26

I first heard that expression, in relation to some footballers' behaviour. I was with my then 25 year old son and asked him what it meant. His reply was 'you really don't want to know'. And I wish I didn't know now.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 28-Jan-25 12:45:24

Kate1949

He's been sacked from the Strictly tour after 'repeated warnings'.

Good 👍🏻

What a silly man, maybe he will learn from this, but I wouldn’t put any money on that!

petra Tue 28-Jan-25 13:03:44

I knew the expression but it was so long ago I can’t remember where from.
It might have been the dominatrix I became acquainted with some years ago.

kircubbin2000 Tue 28-Jan-25 13:23:38

MountainAsh

Never heard of it. I hate all this”woke” nonsense.

Nothing to do with woke this time. Just a very crude creep of a man.

kircubbin2000 Tue 28-Jan-25 13:26:19

I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men.On Facebook everyone is sticking up for him and saying everyone talks like this and it's only banter!

Sparklefizz Tue 28-Jan-25 13:56:36

Apparently he has been "repeatedly warned" about his behaviour by the BBC so this is not an isolated incident.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 28-Jan-25 14:08:34

I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men
Which rugby and football men?

To dismiss this as “locker room banter” is no excuse and I am sure many if not all of us will know of rugby or football players who would not use this expression in the privacy of the locker room let alone in public.

TerriBull Tue 28-Jan-25 15:00:38

"I think it's a popular expression with rugby and football men"

Sorry that so called male camaraderie where women are objectified and disrespected, I just can't stand it, it massively trivialises some of the appalling sexual assaults against women.