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What is it with men? Some men, perhaps, but TOO MANY

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RosiesMaw2 Mon 27-Jan-25 23:16:58

Wynne Evans has stepped away from his BBC radio programme after making an “inappropriate and unacceptable” remark towards a Strictly Come Dancing presenter
Evans, the opera singer and star of the Go Compare adverts, was caught on camera appearing to use the term “spit roast” in reference to Janette Manrara, who is hosting the Strictly live tour.
The incident happened during a photocall for the tour in Birmingham, as Ms Manrara stood between Evans and Jamie Borthwick, another Strictly contestant. Borthwick did not take part in the exchange
I am proud to say it would not have occurred to DH or indeed any men in my family to use that sort of language.
D1 and GD (10) went to the Strictly Live show 10 days ago, with friends, also with a 10 year old daughter.
GD loved it but if she had caught any of the interview what on earth could we have said to her?

marley1974 Wed 29-Jan-25 12:54:50

RosiesMaw2

HIS mental health… - really?

Don’t get me started on “that” excuse, it is a slap in the face to all with genuine MH problems.
Another particular bugbear of mine

“Nessa” sends it up rather well

Wynne Evans does have a history of severe depressions and suicidal thoughts. Not that it would be an excuse for the recent behaviour.

Poppyred Wed 29-Jan-25 13:02:41

I had never heard of what he said either. Yuck! He’s had plenty of warnings. Serves him right…..

Sharr22 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:03:16

If he says that in public, dread to think how he talk about women in private!

Smileless2012 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:05:33

Unless his mental health problems result in him not knowing or caring what is and is not appropriate, I don't understand the relevance.

keepingquiet Wed 29-Jan-25 13:06:07

Sparklefizz

He is being given too much attention by the media, in my view. He is full of himself, thinks he's so funny with all his "jokes", and is giving the impression that he was the one who decided to have a break, not the BBC taking him off the Strictly tour.

And Shirley Ballas has come out in his favour! What's going on there? No sisterhood that's for sure.

Now it seems his girlfriend has ended their relationship. A wise move on her part methinks.

Yes- this! Stuff like this is fodder for the media who believe most people are interested in this kind of shallow, self-serving person.

This isn't just a man thing either- it is a thing about self-respect and respecting others which is a human thing.

I have only come across this term in relation to a female MP who recieved, as so many do, lots of hate mail on social media.

No wonder few women want to stand for parliament!

ReadyMeals Wed 29-Jan-25 13:06:09

Woke or not, "roast" refers to something particularly unpleasant and somewhat violent. I'm not going into more detail

Mt61 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:08:00

Yes I recently came across this term! Not a nice thing to suggest live on tour 😩

Cateq Wed 29-Jan-25 13:10:10

Just read the meaning of this term he deserves to lose all his contracts. Apparently the BbC team have spoken to him previously about his behaviour, they should have sacked him a lot sooner.

Mt61 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:13:59

Pity they didn’t sack all the other perverts back in the day.

DrWatson Wed 29-Jan-25 13:15:28

Well, someone used the term "entitled", and sadly there seems to be a subset of the celebrity class who think they are just that, special rules, and it's just because all the fame and acclaim has made them believe their own hype. There are still plenty of celebs that are nice, genuine people who recall where they came from.

As for "disgusting terms" -- sadly, 'normal' people can certainly dish out derogatory comments that they probably wouldn't want used on them, and that's women too!

Eloethan Wed 29-Jan-25 13:20:14

I suspected that when the first allegations came to light (when he appeared to have been inappropriately touching the professional dancer), the dancer in question was in a tricky position. If she acknowledged that this sort of behaviour had been a problem for her, it would damage the reputation of Strictly, and possibly lead to its demise. Then she, and all the dancers and other people involved in the programme, would be out of a job. However, the look of disgust on her face in one of the sections of filming seemed to tell the story accurately.

I too had never heard of the expression "spit roast", but of course looked it up. How absolutely vile and disgusting.

I tend to agree with the poster. It seems there are more men that we would imagine who think in this way. They may appear innocuous but, on the quiet, they have some horrible views about women. The many men in France who raped an unconscious woman, at her own husband's instigation, no doubt appeared perfectly ordinary. It's a sad state of affairs but I guess it has been ever thus.

sankev Wed 29-Jan-25 13:37:36

Disgusting! Absolutely no excuse and total lack of respect for women. The men in my family would never use such language or show such disrespect towards women. They don’t even use swear words in front of me,

NannieChicken Wed 29-Jan-25 14:01:57

I've never heard of this expression and had to ask my husband to explain.
I wonder if this rude man ever stopped to consider the upset this kind of comment caused Jeanette.
He should be ashamed of himself.

netflixfan Wed 29-Jan-25 14:04:42

I had to look the term up. I’ve not heard that sort of things for the many decades, since I parted from a Welsh fellow who played rugby. These sort of phrases would not have been repeated in the company of ladies, but I did learn a few things that would make your hair curl.
I’m sure they things are different now (?) but who knows with mr Evans coming out with this.

cookiemonster66 Wed 29-Jan-25 14:06:58

Thank goodness times are changing, WOKE or not, new generations are being taught that there is now a consequence to inappropriate behaviour and it will not be tolerated. You only have to look back at 1970's TV shows where women were sex objects scantily dressed paraded around even on family shows , no wonder so many men now behave like they do. BUT looking forward, by changing attitudes and punishing and publicly recognising this bad behaviour we are now teaching the next generation to treat everyone with respect.

Tizliz Wed 29-Jan-25 14:10:40

Smileless2012

Unless his mental health problems result in him not knowing or caring what is and is not appropriate, I don't understand the relevance.

agree

TiggyW Wed 29-Jan-25 14:18:15

He should take a look at himself in the mirror. 🤮

wibblywobblywobblebottom Wed 29-Jan-25 14:39:17

I've actually indulged in spit roasting. Chicken. Woke comes from a song by Leadbelly where he is telling black people to awaken and see the racism all around them. Woke is a term that has been appropriated by crazy people.

grannybuy Wed 29-Jan-25 15:12:16

I've not heard of it either. I can't understand why some of these men think that females would give them a second look. Inflated egos obviously. I hope he takes a long hard look at himself - and doesn't like what he sees.

AuntieE Wed 29-Jan-25 15:39:42

I too am happy to say I do not know any men who would have used such a disgusting term.

Unfortunately, standards have slipped in our lifetime and today many people do use extremely crude language in public.

At least now others are pointing out how disgusting this kind of thing is, which I regard as a step in the right direction. For years, practically since 1970, anyone who complained about coarse or obscene language in print or on radio, television or the stage was just told not to be so old-fashioned and prudish.

Nightsky2 Wed 29-Jan-25 15:40:54

Another who had to look it up and I thought I’d heard most things.

How humiliating for J Manrara. What a horrible repulsive and crude man Evans is.

Crazygrandma60 Wed 29-Jan-25 16:35:14

OMG, wish I hadn't looked it up now!!

mabon1 Wed 29-Jan-25 17:39:53

Never heard the term. What's the matter with him, clearly thinks he is invincible. he's already had a yellow card.

nightowl Wed 29-Jan-25 17:44:22

I think more men hate women than we realise. And I suspect many men use horrible derogatory terms about women when not in our company.

Angiewub Wed 29-Jan-25 17:50:25

Agreed - what on earth has woke got to do with it?! Decent and basic human standards surely mean more. Shame on you