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Mandelson might not make it. The FBI are looking into his past.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 28-Jan-25 19:03:19

Oh Starmer. When you have choices in front of you why do you seem to consistently pick the dud? Mandelson probably has one of the best Rolodex list of contacts in the world.
His cv is very impressive. The problem is, who will he be representing if he is accepted by the new administration?
Will he be representing the UK, the EU or China? These are legitimate questions, and clearly the FBI are sufficiently concerned.

This appointment must now surely be doubtful?
I think he’s toast.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:02:16

We went through that on the last Mandelson thread GG13, no traction there

as he wasn't involved in that side of Epstein.

Also numbers of USA politicians not too keen on undoing that past.

Trump himself was implicated
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/23/donald-trump-accuser-stacey-williams-jeffrey-epstein

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:14:57

Trump and Epstein -

The most notable person to be associated with Jeffrey Epstein is President Donald Trump, who was photographed with Epstein at Mar-a-Lago in 1997 and again in 2000 with wife Melania and Epstein’s partner, British media mogul heir Ghislaine Maxwell

In fact, in the aforementioned 2002 New York Magazine profile of Epstein, Trump crowed about his friend and touted his fondness for younger women: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump said at the time. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life

www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/jeffrey-epstein-political-connections-sex-trafficker-856642/donald-trump-5-856643/

MayBee70 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:24:36

You know, just like Daily Express pop ups on Facebook, when I see a new anti government thread shown on the ‘latest’ part of gransnet I pretty much know straight away who has started it…sad

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:35:42

Whether we like Mandelson or not its Trump trying to manipulate the UK: if we turned round and refused to allow a Trump diplomatic appointment you can imagine the consequences.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 29-Jan-25 13:00:08

MayBee70

You know, just like Daily Express pop ups on Facebook, when I see a new anti government thread shown on the ‘latest’ part of gransnet I pretty much know straight away who has started it…sad

I know MayBee I often think it’s Kemi Badenoch too!

DrWatson Wed 29-Jan-25 13:07:49

For the OP (FGT), yes, Mandelson was suspended several times by Labour for assorted dodgy dealings. And now he's a Lord. Major & Heseltine did their best to bankrupt the country (Black Wednesday?) and are now a Sir and Lord respectively. In the old days they'd have had a short trip to meet a chap with a big axe to grind.

And as several have said, if the FBI would like to investigate Chump, he's a multiple bankrupt, and a rapist (according to the C4 documentary, early 2016).

As for "ties to China" -- Elon Musk has lots of them, which is why he makes soundbites about the jailing of Tommy Robinson here being an attack on his human rights . . . .but the concentration camps the Chinese have put a million+ Uyghur Muslims into don't get a mention.

Sago Wed 29-Jan-25 13:44:36

“My remarks about Trump were ill judged and wrong”
This is from “the prince of darkness” today.

I bet he was crossing his fingers under the table.

Shinamae Wed 29-Jan-25 13:58:56

FriedGreenTomatoes2

MayBee70

You know, just like Daily Express pop ups on Facebook, when I see a new anti government thread shown on the ‘latest’ part of gransnet I pretty much know straight away who has started it…sad

I know MayBee I often think it’s Kemi Badenoch too!

👍🏻😂😂

Shinamae Wed 29-Jan-25 14:00:28

Sago

“My remarks about Trump were ill judged and wrong”
This is from “the prince of darkness” today.

I bet he was crossing his fingers under the table.

I hope he doesn’t fall off back peddling that fast….😂
On second thoughts….. 😁

Mamie Wed 29-Jan-25 15:01:05

Casdon

No need to read more than the hilarious headline to know it’s true. Never trust the Telegraph…..
www.gbnews.com/politics/trump-confirms-mandelson-us-ambassador-fbi-probe

I am inclined to think now that "The Telegraph Newspaper" is an oxymoron.

Ramblingrose22 Thu 30-Jan-25 14:56:58

The "I" reported this morning that the White House has confirmed that Mandelson be accepted as ambassador.

I think some conditions are to be attached to the appointment because of past links with China so they've used some creative thinking to solve that issue.

Just shows how wrong the Daily Telegraph can be pre-empting the decision. So much about Mandelson being "toast".

Wyllow3 Thu 30-Jan-25 15:20:22

Shinamae

Sago

“My remarks about Trump were ill judged and wrong”
This is from “the prince of darkness” today.

I bet he was crossing his fingers under the table.

I hope he doesn’t fall off back peddling that fast….😂
On second thoughts….. 😁

Oh, come off it, its called diplomacy and has been practiced for centuries.

Jut out of interest, here is Trump's appointee to the UK:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20e79nlpe6o

A "put America First" plutocrat" billionaire investment banker.

maddyone Thu 30-Jan-25 15:41:13

Of course it’s diplomacy, but it’s interesting watching him grovel. What people will do for a bit of power and money!