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Where is the celebration?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 31-Jan-25 11:29:17

Brexit - 5 years old today.

There is a huge paucity of benefits and silence in the Brexit ranks.

pascal30 Fri 31-Jan-25 19:50:39

BlueBelle

Brexit was a total disaster and will continue to be
Totally wrong how it was handled from start to finish and those voting for it are not now accepting that many more now realise the disaster it is
We have split from Europe and now have a ‘best friend’ who is a dangerous idiot instead 😢

completely agree Bluebelle... we obviously haven't split from Europe but we no longer have all the advantages of being integrated with it.. I dread the influence Trump will have in future.. We were much stronger in the EU

Deedaa Fri 31-Jan-25 19:54:59

The argument won't end with us. My daughter is 50 so hopefully has a few more decades yet. Brexit has been a disaster for her as a scientist. The loss of research grants, European students coming over to study, and the endless complications and expense involved in sending and receiving samples from abroad are crippling.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 20:05:58

Oreo

Casdon

My children are living their lives and looking forward too, and I would hope that’s what everybody does GrannyGravy13. That doesn’t mean they don’t have concerns about where the UK is headed, and that they won’t campaign for the UK to rejoin the EU. It’s not going to end with us.

It’s never going to happen ( rejoining) politicians know how divisive and bad for people the referendum was.

In real life nobody even talks about Brexit, it’s only obsessed people here and there on forums now.

People are now concerned just on the government and what policies are pushed through and the cost of living.

You obviously lead a different life to my family Oreo, we talk a lot about politics, as do my friends and theirs, and Brexit is regularly part of the conversation. I know quite a few people with small businesses too, and they regularly complain about it because exporting and importing is so much more hassle for them.

Oreo Fri 31-Jan-25 20:16:20

Politics yes, gets talked about a lot in the family and at work, Brexit no, not for years, the pandemic wiped that topic out.
People are now concerned with looking forward and getting on with life.

Casdon Fri 31-Jan-25 20:20:09

That’s fine, you do you, and we will do us, neither way is right or wrong - and we are looking forward and getting on with life too.

Oreo Fri 31-Jan-25 20:22:12

I believe the pandemic had a big part to play in us realising what’s really important in life, family and friends especially.😃

Syracute Fri 31-Jan-25 20:23:14

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Honestly you folk?
You call me ‘unhinged’?

How rude.
Unacceptable behaviour.

Can you imagine the opprobrium if I EVER called any of you that? Yet I’m just supposed to accept it.

You’re like mean girls in the playground. Just listen to yourselves.

Sorry, but you write without fact or sense .

flappergirl Fri 31-Jan-25 20:26:27

GrannyGravy13

I can honestly say the only time I give leaving the EU a thought is when I see a thread on GN.

The remain camp has to take some responsibility, as they failed to read the room and therefore didn’t put forward their side as robustly as the leave camp.

You mean they didn't tell blatant lies?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 31-Jan-25 20:27:02

This is now a pile on

FGT2 has different opinions, no need to be so nasty.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 31-Jan-25 20:38:07

flappergirl the remain camp were complacent.

As were all those who couldn’t even be bothered to vote.

bathsalts Fri 31-Jan-25 20:43:42

Trump loooked barking mad this morning and what he said was offensive.

So no thanks to a Trump moment.

Wyllow3 Fri 31-Jan-25 20:48:33

I recall the not bothering to vote and the shock from a number of young people I then knew, they just didn't believe it was possible people could want to leave and totally lazy.

bathsalts Fri 31-Jan-25 20:53:36

I agree Wyllow, I think many people couldn't believe it would happen. The policiticians didn't either. They suddenly remembered Ireland. Woops.

BevSec Fri 31-Jan-25 21:00:22

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Honestly you folk?
You call me ‘unhinged’?

How rude.
Unacceptable behaviour.

Can you imagine the opprobrium if I EVER called any of you that? Yet I’m just supposed to accept it.

You’re like mean girls in the playground. Just listen to yourselves.

👏👏👏👏🤣👏👏

Syracute Fri 31-Jan-25 21:03:58

GrannyGravy13

This is now a pile on

FGT2 has different opinions, no need to be so nasty.

Well , I am from NY , just like Trump ! I am leaving niceties at the door .

Eloethan Fri 31-Jan-25 22:07:59

I am very sorry that we left the EU, even though there were things about it that concerned me.

I think leaving was a huge mistake.

Galaxy Fri 31-Jan-25 22:23:48

I am not sure you can decide to leave niceties at the door. Well you can I suppose, but this site has a range of rules, one being no personal attacks.

Allira Fri 31-Jan-25 22:31:21

Syracute

GrannyGravy13

This is now a pile on

FGT2 has different opinions, no need to be so nasty.

Well , I am from NY , just like Trump ! I am leaving niceties at the door .

So you don't agree with Trump but you claim to have sunk to his level?
Why?

Being a New Yorker is no excuse, I have relatives in New York and they're nothing like that. They're good people.

Allira Fri 31-Jan-25 22:44:28

flappergirl

GrannyGravy13

I can honestly say the only time I give leaving the EU a thought is when I see a thread on GN.

The remain camp has to take some responsibility, as they failed to read the room and therefore didn’t put forward their side as robustly as the leave camp.

You mean they didn't tell blatant lies?

Those politicians who wished to stay in the EYPU have themselves said that they too it for granted that the result would be to remain.

They were complacent and many younger people just were not bothered enough to go along to their nearest polling station and vote.

Brexit was a result of complacency.

Allira Fri 31-Jan-25 22:44:43

EU !

MaizieD Fri 31-Jan-25 22:48:30

Galaxy

I am not sure you can decide to leave niceties at the door. Well you can I suppose, but this site has a range of rules, one being no personal attacks.

It could be that FGT will only begin to understand how deeply offensive and hurtful Trump’s pronouncements about the various groups in society which he denigrates are if she is on the receiving end of similar treatment.

At least she has the mids to turn to for protection. Which is more than Trump’s victims have.

MaizieD Fri 31-Jan-25 22:49:15

The mods (moderators), not the mids…

Allira Fri 31-Jan-25 23:05:35

Two wrongs never made a right.

As far as Trump is concerned, I think of Michelle Obama.
"When they go low, we go high".

Rosie51 Fri 31-Jan-25 23:06:43

MaizieD

Galaxy

I am not sure you can decide to leave niceties at the door. Well you can I suppose, but this site has a range of rules, one being no personal attacks.

It could be that FGT will only begin to understand how deeply offensive and hurtful Trump’s pronouncements about the various groups in society which he denigrates are if she is on the receiving end of similar treatment.

At least she has the mids to turn to for protection. Which is more than Trump’s victims have.

I don't agree with FGT's political stance at all, but I'm appalled at the acceptance that she's the victim of pile-ons and insults.
^ if she is on the receiving end of similar treatment.^
How low and vile can you fall to condone and even encourage such treatment of another poster? The false equivalence is dreadful!

MayBee70 Fri 31-Jan-25 23:08:11

GrannyGravy13

I can honestly say the only time I give leaving the EU a thought is when I see a thread on GN.

The remain camp has to take some responsibility, as they failed to read the room and therefore didn’t put forward their side as robustly as the leave camp.

They didn’t have the benefit of having the tabloid newspapers printing downright lies on their front pages week after week. Remember ‘ the Queen supports vote leave’ knowing full well she wasn’t able to dispute it. At least not openly and not at the time.