Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

Mollygo exactly!

I wish Claremont would accept that it’s happened and stop banging on about it. It’s incredibly tiresome. As I understand it, she lives in a country which is not within the EU and never has been.

Mollygo ✔️✔️✔️

Mollygo
I think you hit the nail on the head there.

Do all polls question all people?
No of course they don’t.

Do they show the proportion of people who would actually bother to vote?
No of course they don’t.

The reason that Brexit happened was because over a million more people bothered to go and vote leave than voted remain.

There is an excellent way to verify it unequivocally, but unless that happens, what people think or what they say they would do is as only as true as the next headline and just as true as saying everyone would vote leave next time.

Well, all polls show that those who believe Brexit had positive effects are a very small minority. Good to have a bit of distance with polls, but when they show that only ELEVEN % are still in favour- even with a margin of error, it is very clear.

But there is an excellent way to verify it, unequivocally.

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

And you can be smugly confident in saying that because unless it happens, it’s as unverifiable as saying Leave would win again, or that everyone would vote next time.
If it keeps you happy, then so be it.

It’s like saying Keir Starmer would have been better at coping with Covid.

There is no way that can be verified.

Barleyfields

Despite voting to remain, I wouldn’t vote to rejoin.

😁

Allira

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Better suggest it to Sir Keir.

Oh I am, we all are!

Despite voting to remain, I wouldn’t vote to rejoin.

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

Not all who voted to leave were old- but a significant proportion, many no longer with us.

You do love a good distortion!

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Better suggest it to Sir Keir.

The fight is on, and no, we will not 'get over it'- for sure

Oh, I think we got the message a while ago.

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Claremont

No, just common sense!

No, it's insensitive and just plain nasty.

Claremont

My grandson was 11 at the time- he doesn't know a single of his friends who would have voted for Brexit, then or now!

And that’s another unprovable piece of information.

My grandson was 11 at the time- he doesn't know a single of his friends who would have voted for Brexit, then or now!

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

Actually, just tell all those who didn’t bother to vote that they should be dead by now, because they voted leave by omission.

I voted remain, but at least I voted and as it was a referendum, I accepted the result, and the after effects, like them or not.

Millions of those complaining probably didn’t bother to vote.
If the leave vote won because of older voters that just proves that older voters valued the right to vote more than the CBA group.
Saying that people voting now would vote remain is one of those unprovable facts.

With the benefit of hindsight, it might well be true, but there is no proof that the younger voters (including those who are now the older voters ) would get off their rear ends and vote any more than they did last time.

The evidence is that a lot of people have changed their mind though. Many must have regretted their decision to vote leave.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

Many older people voted for Brexit, many in their 70s and 80s, and yes, 9 years makes a huge difference.

As for the younger ones, they come in two groups. Those who were already of voting age and who didn't bother- and will never ever make the same mistake again, as they are fully aware of the damage done. And the other group are those who were not yet of voting age at the time, but are now, and are vastly anti Brexit, as they also are very aware of the disastrous effects on their future.

Bluntly, older, mainly Leave, voters ahave died or are now very old—and younger, mainly Remain, voters are joining the electorate
Let’s unpick this.
Remind me how long ago the Referendum was, 50 years ago?
20 years ago?
Oh, 9?
Fair enough lots of people have died in the last 5 years but assuming middle-aged to getting on - 50’s to late 60’s! Died by now?
Facts to bear this out please.
And as for younger mainly Remain voters joining the electorate - was there a different minimum age?

If they were voters then, they are not “joining the electorate now” and if they are “joining the electorate now” presumably they were aged around 12 then.

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Barleyfields

‘The vast majority who voted for Brexit are dead now^? And it has become obsolete ?

What a load of nonsense. Far from ‘common sense’. If the vast majority who voted for Brexit are now dead, should not the vast majority who voted to remain also be dead?

Good call Barleyfields of course it does!
Acti never joined those particular dots either! 😂

Our family voted one way, most of our workers another.

We're all still alive.

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

petra

FGT2
I bet someone else wished they had joined the. Too eager, me thinks.

Sorry, do not understand this sentence? What do you mean?

One million Labour voters who backed Brexit two years ago are having second thoughts. This emerges from a special analysis of YouGov surveys conducted this year. It shows that, below the surface, public opinion is stirring. Significant numbers of younger Leave voters, as well as those supporting Labour in last year’s election, no longer think Brexit is right for Britain.

Moreover, the effects of demographic changes since the referendum are growing. Bluntly, older, mainly Leave, voters ahave died or are now very old—and younger, mainly Remain, voters are joining the electorate. There is a real prospect that if the people were given the final say on Brexit, they would vote for the UK to stay in the European Union.