Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

whywhywhy

Just get on with it because we can’t change a thing.

Of couse we can- what a negative and defeatist attitude.

Which huge firms and massive employers has the UK lost?

The new regulations regarding exports and imports have bedded down and are accepted,

The UK would not be ‘massively stronger’ with the EU. We are able to make our own decisions, for instance not having to follow the herd in reacting to Trump’s tariffs, We have our own voice and are not one of many, subjected to the wishes of the majority. We also have our own currency and are not tied to the euro. We can pass our own laws without interference from other countries. I may have voted to remain, but I certainly would not wish to return to the EU.

Have you noticed that you’re pretty much on your own here with your EU obsession Claremont?

Claremont

How will it 'settle'down', by magic? This is absolute nonsense. Time won't make it any easier to export UK goods, or import goods which are in shortage around the world. It won't bring back those huge firms and massive employers that relied on the above. Time will make it all worse, not better.

Europe needs to be stronger than ever with Trump and Putin, and yes, it would be stronger with the UK- but the UK would be massively stronger with the EU.

I know the headline in this link is not something you want to see but don’t blame me.

www.economy-ni.gov.uk/news/trade-germany-thriving-potential-even-greater-growth-archibald

Germany companies are investing in the uk defence sector ( that’s because we’re bloody good) despite what naysayers like yourself think.

I think I speak for a lot of members here when I say we are getting heartily pissed off with you running down our country.

If you want to report this post, go ahead. But be assured I will send my reasons why to the moderators.

Way way out of order. I won't report, it's too pathetic, It is my country, my DHs country, my ACs country and my GCs country.

So be as pissed off as you wish. That is your problem, not mine.

There are no reasons you can give to moderators- I've always been polite, thanks.

I’m looking forward to hearing the names of these huge firms and massive employers.

Claremont

Way way out of order. I won't report, it's too pathetic, It is my country, my DHs country, my ACs country and my GCs country.

So be as pissed off as you wish. That is your problem, not mine.

There are no reasons you can give to moderators- I've always been polite, thanks.

I agree with you Claremont.. you talk sense..

Claremont

Way way out of order. I won't report, it's too pathetic, It is my country, my DHs country, my ACs country and my GCs country.

So be as pissed off as you wish. That is your problem, not mine.

There are no reasons you can give to moderators- I've always been polite, thanks.

You seem to be the one that’s pissed off…? How is that anyone else’s problem?

All seemingly since 2016… some of us have had a lovely life since then, within Europe without much restriction and no doubt that irritates you more!

I too have had a lovely life since 2016. I can’t begin to imagine being so consumed with anger and rage. It can’t be a good place to be.

Still awaiting answers to my questions.

It looks as if I'll have to do some research, all very well, but I was hoping for some insight from someone who might have actual experience. ☹

Brexit emboldened Putin, who helped to finance it. It brought us the most appallingly corrupt, careless and incompetent PM. of my lifetime who was the worst person to be in charge during the covid crisis. It has diminished our national income and held down growth by erecting trade barriers between the UK and its largest market. We are no more independent of EU regulations than we were as anyone who trades with the EU has to conform to them, we just have no say in their formation.

It has lost some people their livelihoods and caused problems for EU citizens wanting to live permanently in the UK. It caused problems in Northern Ireland which are now contained but not solved.

The loss of the Dublin agreement has exacerbated the problem of asylum seekers arriving by small boats.

There is much more, but I CBA to spend too long on this.

It’s nice to know about the lovely lives some people have had since 2016, but that doesn’t mean that Brexit was any less of the huge mistake it has turned out to be.

I suggest that if you don’t like the topic you don’t respond to posts about it, it brings out the worst in people (another Brexit benefit it seems, licence to be unpleasant)

I'm one of those 'silly uneducated and stupid people who voted for Brexit...and I'll tell you why ..I live in an area of depravity that doesn't get the investment seen in the South of England so for me there was nothing to lose by voting that way, and to be honest nothing has changed for me I still get up in the morning to go to work and pay taxes. Everyone is entitled to vote and the circumstances of their own situations affects their decision.

Dorisdodar

I'm one of those 'silly uneducated and stupid people who voted for Brexit...and I'll tell you why ..I live in an area of depravity that doesn't get the investment seen in the South of England so for me there was nothing to lose by voting that way, and to be honest nothing has changed for me I still get up in the morning to go to work and pay taxes. Everyone is entitled to vote and the circumstances of their own situations affects their decision.

I do hope you mean deprivation and not depravity..

It’ll be predictive text again pascal😬

Barleyfields

I too have had a lovely life since 2016. I can’t begin to imagine being so consumed with anger and rage. It can’t be a good place to be.

I can’t imagine it arising from Brexit, that’s for sure! 😄

How condescending and rude, yet again- to say that those of us who regret Brexit very much and want to fight to regain a much better cooperation and relationship with the EU- are 'consumed with anger and range' and not enjoying life!

It is perfectly possible to be very upset about Brexit and how it happened, the cheating, the lies, the outside interference from the likes of Putin and Musk, and be very angry about the massive damage done, AND enjoying life to the full, with great family and friends, nature, culture and so much more.

Those horrible messages about needing medical help with depression, etc, and being so boring and obsessed.

Rude, uncouth and absolutely wrong.

Brexit is not done, and we have to fight for the future of our grandchildren. I will, and they are very proud. That will do me.

As for playing the ball and not the player- ah well, no comment.

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Spot on, Oreo. We won’t be rejoining the EU and this ‘fighting’ is pointless. Close ties give the best of both worlds.

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Barleyfields

Spot on, Oreo. We won’t be rejoining the EU and this ‘fighting’ is pointless. Close ties give the best of both worlds.

I bet that the UK will be rejoining the EU, or son of EU, just not for a good few years yet.

No, that ship has sailed so I very much doubt it.

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Most likely not😂 and as time goes by, nobody else will either.

Oreo

No, that ship has sailed so I very much doubt it.

Watch this space I’d say. I don’t think it will happen in this parliament, but I think there could easily be a further referendum in the next. I don’t think Gransnetters are representative of overall voters views, as more young people are pro Europe than older people, and our ties are of necessity getting stronger with the threat of war. It’s wishful thinking to think the UK doesn’t need to be fully involved. I think the EU will morph into a different brief during this period too.

I was pro Europe and voted to remain but respected the eventual outcome.
Anything can happen in the future, nuclear wars, asteroids crashing into the earth and an alien invasion😁 but I think the chances of us rejoining are vanishingly tiny.
Who is doing the wishful thinking that we don’t need to be fully involved? The UK and France seem to be leading the rest of Europe on the Ukraine issue.

Still, if you want to bet a tenner on it I’ll take the bet.😃

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Their right and they are not representative. Most young people are very much anti Brexit and very keen to have closer ties to Europea and the right to travel, work and study there.

As for 'OTT rhetoric' just more uncouth rudeness. Truly don't care.

I'll keep on fighting, and hoping, and have a wonderful, happy very active life too. And am very proud my grandchildren and their friends, DO care, very much.