Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

There’s plenty of wishful thinking - citing the UK having an advantage with the US with Trump in charge is one that springs to mind immediately. Thinking we won’t be affected by world markets, or will have a bargaining power advantage for shortage goods is another. The main one for me though is the thinking that underpins it, that the UK is somehow better than every other country. Throw the brickbats at me now, but I believe some really do think that.

Still not a single person here has been able to find a single benefit of Brexit (well not one that stands to scrutiny)- a disaster on all fronts, and especially damaging to all those who were promised miracles and riches!

It’s really funny to have read the 😱 and don't people understand what a referendum means , on GN when there was talk of a further referendum for Scotland’s independence then to read expectations of a further referendum for rejoining the EU.
Probably there is also a belief among some, that the UK would be welcomed back on terms favourable to the UK, despite the fact that unfavourable terms were one reason for BREXIT.

Claremont

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Their right and they are not representative. Most young people are very much anti Brexit and very keen to have closer ties to Europea and the right to travel, work and study there.

As for 'OTT rhetoric' just more uncouth rudeness. Truly don't care.

I'll keep on fighting, and hoping, and have a wonderful, happy very active life too. And am very proud my grandchildren and their friends, DO care, very much.

Many of our GC and GGC still wear nappies, I truly don't they or their slightly older siblings care even a little bit.

I'm proud of my entire family - we happily still actively work, travel, study. Everyone is different, with different expectations.

OTT means ‘over the top’ in the UK this isn’t thought of as uncouth, in case you had no idea.🤷🏼‍♀️
Out of interest what physical form does this ‘fighting’ take?
You need to realise that ‘most’ young people are not keen to have closer ties to Europe or the right to work or study there.
They can still travel there any time they like of course and come to that can still work there for a certain amount of time as they did before we joined the EU.
It’s now nearly 9 long years since the referendum.

All five of our AC and their partners voted leave, they have no regrets.

They still have fabulous lives, still travel (in Europe and further afield).

In actual fact none of them give leaving the EU a second thought.

GrannyGravy13

All five of our AC and their partners voted leave, they have no regrets.

They still have fabulous lives, still travel (in Europe and further afield).

In actual fact none of them give leaving the EU a second thought.

Our 4 voted remain. As did our entire larger family.

They all love their lives, work, travel - don't care at all about Brexit.

Those horrible messages about needing medical help with depression, etc, and being so boring and obsessed

If you have had messages (PMs) on these matters do report them to HQ. I can’t say I’ve seen anything on this thread of that ilk.
However anybody suspecting “obsession” might be able to quote the number of threads and posts over the years which might lead to a similar conclusion.

(And you have been posting in this vein over the years, haven’t you?)

Mollygo

It’s really funny to have read the 😱 and don't people understand what a referendum means , on GN when there was talk of a further referendum for Scotland’s independence then to read expectations of a further referendum for rejoining the EU.
Probably there is also a belief among some, that the UK would be welcomed back on terms favourable to the UK, despite the fact that unfavourable terms were one reason for BREXIT.

Who is it that you think believes that Mollygo?

That's the issue really. Young people don't give brexit a second thought. It is meaningless to them.

They are living their lives. Not sat on forums demanding to be told what benefits we've gained from leaving the EU.

It's history.

Folk are certainly at liberty to constantly talk about it, but others are also at liberty to have got over it

www.statista.com/statistics/1393682/brexit-opinion-poll-by-age/

Norah

GrannyGravy13

All five of our AC and their partners voted leave, they have no regrets.

They still have fabulous lives, still travel (in Europe and further afield).

In actual fact none of them give leaving the EU a second thought.

Our 4 voted remain. As did our entire larger family.

They all love their lives, work, travel - don't care at all about Brexit.

And that is very much their prorogative, however surprising my GCs and their friends would find it.

I was talking about the ability to work in Europe, and to travel in Europe, not for 1 week or 2 on hols- but to truly experience life there. Before we joined EU and after Brexit- this has become very complicated as work place and permit all have to be sorted out beforehand. And almost impossible for all those who wanted to spend 1 year of more working seasons working in ski resorts or summer resorts, teaching and practising sport, working in bars, clubs, hotels, etc, learning a new language, experiencing a different culture, making friends and ties, etc.

Of course I am still posting about it- because all the issues we warned about are still there, and getting worse rather than better. If everything had settled down, and the massive damage just gone away- of course I wouldn't. It hasn't, so I will keep going. And you can just ignore, scroll past. Just as you please.

prerogative, oops.

Claremont it may be more problematic (i.e. red tape) but it is not impossible for British citizens to work in Europe.

I know of many who are working the ski season and a fair few more who have got positions lined up for the summer season.

It really isn’t all doom and gloom here in the U.K. , despite what you continue to post…

YouGov poll from January of this year, 2025

among the youngest Britons, who were unable to vote in the 2016 referendum, there is little belief that the referendum went the right way. Three-quarters of 18-24 year olds (75%) say that Britain was wrong to vote to leave the EU, against just one in ten (10%) who say the UK made the right choice.

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

(there's a link to the full results on the report page)

Young people may not talk about Brexit, but they clearly don't agree with it.

Of course it's not a current topic of discussion, we have to live with what we have. But claiming that young people don't care is clearly untrue.

Polling may not be perfect, but a well conducted poll is probably the best indication we have of how people are thinking. It's better than anecdotes.

It really isn’t all doom and gloom here in the U.K. , despite what you continue to post…

I really don't know how you can say that with a straight face, GG13. You must be well insulated against the dire state of the UK...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
I wouldn’t say that young people didn’t /don’t care, but there is the incontrovertible fact that we don’t know whether or not they will bother to vote, if the matter ever arises again.

Since we are regularly told that older people were responsible for the Leave vote winning, that implies that the lack of remain votes (over 1,000,000 of them) was due to younger people not bothering to vote.

MaizieD

^It really isn’t all doom and gloom here in the U.K. , despite what you continue to post…^

I really don't know how you can say that with a straight face, GG13. You must be well insulated against the dire state of the UK...

We have family in Spain, Sweden, Denmark and Australia, all of which have similar issues to UK.

My neighbours still spend many months of the year in Spain, exactly as they did before Brexit. So one has to fill in some forms - is that the end of the earth? There are many other countries which people from the UK either visit or work in, and, shock horror, they too have to fill in some forms. The earth is still turning.

Of course I am still posting about it- because all the issues we warned about are still there, and getting worse rather than better. If everything had settled down, and the massive damage just gone away- of course I wouldn't. It hasn't, so I will keep going. And you can just ignore, scroll past. Just as you please
So given that Claremont is a relatively new username, in the interests of transparency and to put your comments in context, are you prepared to say which username (s) you were using heretofore? .

MaizieD

^It really isn’t all doom and gloom here in the U.K. , despite what you continue to post…^

I really don't know how you can say that with a straight face, GG13. You must be well insulated against the dire state of the UK...

Is that due to Brexit?

Or due to many other factors?

That seems a bit unfair RosieandherMaw. Why should just one person have to do that? There are lots of posters on here who haven’t chosen to disclose their former user names (I don’t mean you, as I know you have), and they post in the same style they always have, so surely it’s the same rule for all? Although we may know their previous user names, I don’t think anybody should have to say who they were before unless they choose to.

Indeed.

Casdon

That seems a bit unfair RosieandherMaw. Why should just one person have to do that? There are lots of posters on here who haven’t chosen to disclose their former user names (I don’t mean you, as I know you have), and they post in the same style they always have, so surely it’s the same rule for all? Although we may know their previous user names, I don’t think anybody should have to say who they were before unless they choose to.

Depends on the reasons.
I have always been totally transparent - as in my case it has been because one cannot return with the identical username- adding “2” or a synonym usually does it.
But there have also been those who have chosen to disguise their former persona for whatever reason. Sadly for them their writing style often gives them away!
Of course I am not suggesting anything of the sort here but given OP’s vehement condemnation of Brexit over the past 9 years, I just wondered why.

I get what you mean, but people must have their reasons, probably all different, for not disclosing, because it happens frequently. It doesn’t bother me, because we probably all know who the people with distinctive styles are anyway, I’m happy to let it be.