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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

RosieandherMaw Sun 16-Mar-25 21:38:39

Well if nothing else we have enjoyed a few hours without this topic! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 09:01:37

Mollygo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:24:24

Claremont, people may think Brexit has no influence on our lives but what good does your endless ranting about it do?
What have you achieved by that?

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Mar-25 09:26:58

The U.K. PM is leading the coalition of the willing

We haven’t left Europe, we left a trade block called the EU.

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 09:33:43

But we are excluded from the 150 billion EU defence fund.

Endless ranting? Well, first of all, this comment is massively rude, but never mind.

Many of us are still trying to fight the worst effects of Brexit, one way or another. Not about the past, but about the future, and to improve conditions, and reverse the tragic effects, one way or another. It means a lot to me, and a huge proportion of the population, increasing by the day. Both via simple demographics, and also because the negative effects are getting clearer by the day, and people want to go forwards without the shackles of Brexit.

You don't care? Then just scroll by.

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 09:48:22

RosieandherMaw

Well if nothing else we have enjoyed a few hours without this topic! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, nice wasn’t it?😄

Mollygo Fri 21-Mar-25 10:01:02

Of course I care Claremont (rude assumption on your part).
I’m also affected by a Brexit that I didn’t vote for. However, I don’t think simply going on about it helps.

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 10:37:49

So glad you find it all hilarious RahM (crème de la crème).

Not sure who Rahm is (Rahmen?) but it 's not Brexit which is hilarious, it's the fact that such threads go round in ever-decreasing circles, getting nowhere except up their own backsides.

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 10:48:37

Mollygo

Of course I care Claremont (rude assumption on your part).
I’m also affected by a Brexit that I didn’t vote for. However, I don’t think simply going on about it helps.

You call it 'going on about it'- some of us call it fighting, in our own way, and we have listed ways to be active on this front previously, in order to influence the future, and not just rant about the past. It is clear with the conflicts around the world, especially in Ukraine, that we need to be part of a united Europe. This even more as the above is causing massive shortages which are about to get worse, and we have voluntarily excluded us for the markets which have agreed to share with each other, without tarifs and huge and very costly lists of checks and red tape. Agriculture, essential chemicals, and so much more, and of course essential medicines. As well as labour force, from agriculture to top science in all fields and medicines.

As for Rahm- don't worry, she will know (I only noticed when I abreviated it for the first time and thought it was funny).

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 11:03:50

You call it 'going on about it'- some of us call it fighting, in our own way

Asking politely - how does continually bringing the subject up on Gransnet on many different threads help change the decision?

We can't create a sliding doors scenario and harping on about past mistakes (if they were) does not change the present nor help constructively towards the future.

Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 11:09:37

Just scroll by, no-one, but no-one is asking you to take part. Simple, very.

Mollygo Fri 21-Mar-25 11:11:06

Allira

^You call it 'going on about it'- some of us call it fighting, in our own way^

Asking politely - how does continually bringing the subject up on Gransnet on many different threads help change the decision?

We can't create a sliding doors scenario and harping on about past mistakes (if they were) does not change the present nor help constructively towards the future.

Well put.
I’m also interested to hear/look forward to being told, what
continually bringing the subject up on Gransnet on many different threads has done to help change the decision.

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 11:56:05

Claremont

Just scroll by, no-one, but no-one is asking you to take part. Simple, very.

I have asked some questions regarding countries which voted not to be members of the EU but have close links with it and whst life is like in those countries but may have missed the answers.

I don't want to scroll by, some information from a different perspective, a country which is not a member but has close links to the EU, might be very interesting but just hearing the same statements over and over has not widened my or anyone else's knowledge at all.

The question as put was too simplistic - yes or no. Many people might have voted to remain as part of a trading union - a Common Market in fact - but thought closer political union was going too far.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Mar-25 11:59:13

Claremont the U.K. is part of a united Europe with regards to Ukraine, as I have already mentioned Keir Starmer our PM is leading the coalition of the willing

The JCHQ (military joint HQ of Europe) is still here in the U.K.

MayBee70 Fri 21-Mar-25 14:26:42

Mollygo

Allira

You call it 'going on about it'- some of us call it fighting, in our own way

Asking politely - how does continually bringing the subject up on Gransnet on many different threads help change the decision?

We can't create a sliding doors scenario and harping on about past mistakes (if they were) does not change the present nor help constructively towards the future.

Well put.
I’m also interested to hear/look forward to being told, what
continually bringing the subject up on Gransnet on many different threads has done to *help change the decision.*

Well, we are still waiting to find out what the brexit benefits are or where all of those amazing trade deals ended up...why should we let people forget all the lies they fell for?

Mollygo Fri 21-Mar-25 14:56:51

Well, we are still waiting to find out what the brexit benefits are or where all of those amazing trade deals ended up...why should we let people forget all the lies they fell for?

That’s another never-endingly reiterated question on GN
Well never know the answer.
Another thing I’d like the answer to is,
Would all the folk who didn’t bother to go and vote, have joined me in voting remain, or did they stay at home, convinced that Leave would lose so they didn’t have to bother?
I find that equally irritating and we have no idea how many of those complaining are among the CBA group.

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 15:05:35

GrannyGravy13

Claremont the U.K. is part of a united Europe with regards to Ukraine, as I have already mentioned Keir Starmer our PM is leading the coalition of the willing

The JCHQ (military joint HQ of Europe) is still here in the U.K.

I don't understand why people don't understand that the EU is not synonymous with Europe.

Europe is a continent made up of 50 countries , 7 dependencies, 8 unrecognized countries and which has an area of 10,530,751 km² and an approximate population of 747,747,395 people in 2021.
The European Union (EU) is an economic and political association made up of 28 countries , and which extends over much of what is the European continent.

MayBee70 Fri 21-Mar-25 15:46:15

Mollygo

Well, we are still waiting to find out what the brexit benefits are or where all of those amazing trade deals ended up...why should we let people forget all the lies they fell for?

That’s another never-endingly reiterated question on GN
Well never know the answer.
Another thing I’d like the answer to is,
Would all the folk who didn’t bother to go and vote, have joined me in voting remain, or did they stay at home, convinced that Leave would lose so they didn’t have to bother?
I find that equally irritating and we have no idea how many of those complaining are among the CBA group.

Well, maybe the CBS’s need reminding of what they helped to inflict on our country. Anyway, Farage didn’t stop banging on about the EU so why should I? Especially when we’re seeing the sort of people politicians such as him are happy to ally themselves with.

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 16:01:20

MayBee70

Mollygo

Well, we are still waiting to find out what the brexit benefits are or where all of those amazing trade deals ended up...why should we let people forget all the lies they fell for?

That’s another never-endingly reiterated question on GN
Well never know the answer.
Another thing I’d like the answer to is,
Would all the folk who didn’t bother to go and vote, have joined me in voting remain, or did they stay at home, convinced that Leave would lose so they didn’t have to bother?
I find that equally irritating and we have no idea how many of those complaining are among the CBA group.

Well, maybe the CBS’s need reminding of what they helped to inflict on our country. Anyway, Farage didn’t stop banging on about the EU so why should I? Especially when we’re seeing the sort of people politicians such as him are happy to ally themselves with.

And he's a real pain in the proverbial!

Mollygo Fri 21-Mar-25 16:09:21

You’re welcome to bang on about it MB70. It just doesn't achieve anything, that’s all.

Allsorts Fri 21-Mar-25 16:15:31

Omg Claremont,its history,move on,

Oreo Fri 21-Mar-25 16:18:56

Banging on about it for years is obsessive and boring.I know somebody who’s the same about cars, and I have to work with him😬😫

Allira Fri 21-Mar-25 16:19:10

Allsorts

Omg Claremont,its history,move on,

I'm still upset about the destruction of the monasteries but acknowledge that is history too.
Precious libraries were destroyed as well.

RosieandherMaw Fri 21-Mar-25 16:28:17

Why do you always pick on me Claremont when I am not the only person who has suggested there is little to be gained by “going on and on” ?
Others disagree with you but you always home in on me.
I might even think there is something personal in all this.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 21-Mar-25 16:30:21

RosieandherMaw

Why do you always pick on me Claremont when I am not the only person who has suggested there is little to be gained by “going on and on” ?
Others disagree with you but you always home in on me.
I might even think there is something personal in all this.

Best not to bite RosieandherMaw