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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

GrannyGravy13 Sun 16-Mar-25 16:16:23

All five of our AC and their partners voted leave, they have no regrets.

They still have fabulous lives, still travel (in Europe and further afield).

In actual fact none of them give leaving the EU a second thought.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 16:12:12

OTT means ‘over the top’ in the UK this isn’t thought of as uncouth, in case you had no idea.🤷🏼‍♀️
Out of interest what physical form does this ‘fighting’ take?
You need to realise that ‘most’ young people are not keen to have closer ties to Europe or the right to work or study there.
They can still travel there any time they like of course and come to that can still work there for a certain amount of time as they did before we joined the EU.
It’s now nearly 9 long years since the referendum.

Norah Sun 16-Mar-25 16:11:51

Claremont

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Their right and they are not representative. Most young people are very much anti Brexit and very keen to have closer ties to Europea and the right to travel, work and study there.

As for 'OTT rhetoric' just more uncouth rudeness. Truly don't care.

I'll keep on fighting, and hoping, and have a wonderful, happy very active life too. And am very proud my grandchildren and their friends, DO care, very much.

Many of our GC and GGC still wear nappies, I truly don't they or their slightly older siblings care even a little bit.

I'm proud of my entire family - we happily still actively work, travel, study. Everyone is different, with different expectations.

Mollygo Sun 16-Mar-25 16:11:47

It’s really funny to have read the 😱 and don't people understand what a referendum means , on GN when there was talk of a further referendum for Scotland’s independence then to read expectations of a further referendum for rejoining the EU.
Probably there is also a belief among some, that the UK would be welcomed back on terms favourable to the UK, despite the fact that unfavourable terms were one reason for BREXIT.

Claremont Sun 16-Mar-25 16:05:10

Still not a single person here has been able to find a single benefit of Brexit (well not one that stands to scrutiny)- a disaster on all fronts, and especially damaging to all those who were promised miracles and riches!

Casdon Sun 16-Mar-25 16:05:06

There’s plenty of wishful thinking - citing the UK having an advantage with the US with Trump in charge is one that springs to mind immediately. Thinking we won’t be affected by world markets, or will have a bargaining power advantage for shortage goods is another. The main one for me though is the thinking that underpins it, that the UK is somehow better than every other country. Throw the brickbats at me now, but I believe some really do think that.

Claremont Sun 16-Mar-25 16:03:23

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Their right and they are not representative. Most young people are very much anti Brexit and very keen to have closer ties to Europea and the right to travel, work and study there.

As for 'OTT rhetoric' just more uncouth rudeness. Truly don't care.

I'll keep on fighting, and hoping, and have a wonderful, happy very active life too. And am very proud my grandchildren and their friends, DO care, very much.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:59:38

Still, if you want to bet a tenner on it I’ll take the bet.😃

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:58:24

I was pro Europe and voted to remain but respected the eventual outcome.
Anything can happen in the future, nuclear wars, asteroids crashing into the earth and an alien invasion😁 but I think the chances of us rejoining are vanishingly tiny.
Who is doing the wishful thinking that we don’t need to be fully involved? The UK and France seem to be leading the rest of Europe on the Ukraine issue.

Casdon Sun 16-Mar-25 15:52:05

Oreo

No, that ship has sailed so I very much doubt it.

Watch this space I’d say. I don’t think it will happen in this parliament, but I think there could easily be a further referendum in the next. I don’t think Gransnetters are representative of overall voters views, as more young people are pro Europe than older people, and our ties are of necessity getting stronger with the threat of war. It’s wishful thinking to think the UK doesn’t need to be fully involved. I think the EU will morph into a different brief during this period too.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:44:46

Norah

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Most likely not😂 and as time goes by, nobody else will either.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:43:56

No, that ship has sailed so I very much doubt it.

Casdon Sun 16-Mar-25 15:39:51

Barleyfields

Spot on, Oreo. We won’t be rejoining the EU and this ‘fighting’ is pointless. Close ties give the best of both worlds.

I bet that the UK will be rejoining the EU, or son of EU, just not for a good few years yet.

Norah Sun 16-Mar-25 15:36:36

Oreo

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Actually, our grandchildren don't care one way or other.

Barleyfields Sun 16-Mar-25 15:24:11

Spot on, Oreo. We won’t be rejoining the EU and this ‘fighting’ is pointless. Close ties give the best of both worlds.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 15:14:30

Brexit is done, you’re obvs in denial.
Bridges will be built with the EU of course and better more diplomatic language used by both sides, but we are out of the EU and not out of Europe, and the closeness of European countries including the UK has been underlined in the last couple of weeks.
All this talk of ‘fighting for our grandchildren’ is OTT rhetoric.

Claremont Sun 16-Mar-25 15:09:48

How condescending and rude, yet again- to say that those of us who regret Brexit very much and want to fight to regain a much better cooperation and relationship with the EU- are 'consumed with anger and range' and not enjoying life!

It is perfectly possible to be very upset about Brexit and how it happened, the cheating, the lies, the outside interference from the likes of Putin and Musk, and be very angry about the massive damage done, AND enjoying life to the full, with great family and friends, nature, culture and so much more.

Those horrible messages about needing medical help with depression, etc, and being so boring and obsessed.

Rude, uncouth and absolutely wrong.

Brexit is not done, and we have to fight for the future of our grandchildren. I will, and they are very proud. That will do me.

As for playing the ball and not the player- ah well, no comment.

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 10:43:15

Barleyfields

I too have had a lovely life since 2016. I can’t begin to imagine being so consumed with anger and rage. It can’t be a good place to be.

I can’t imagine it arising from Brexit, that’s for sure! 😄

Oreo Sun 16-Mar-25 10:40:00

It’ll be predictive text again pascal😬

pascal30 Sun 16-Mar-25 10:14:49

Dorisdodar

I'm one of those 'silly uneducated and stupid people who voted for Brexit...and I'll tell you why ..I live in an area of depravity that doesn't get the investment seen in the South of England so for me there was nothing to lose by voting that way, and to be honest nothing has changed for me I still get up in the morning to go to work and pay taxes. Everyone is entitled to vote and the circumstances of their own situations affects their decision.

I do hope you mean deprivation and not depravity..

Dorisdodar Sun 16-Mar-25 09:17:32

I'm one of those 'silly uneducated and stupid people who voted for Brexit...and I'll tell you why ..I live in an area of depravity that doesn't get the investment seen in the South of England so for me there was nothing to lose by voting that way, and to be honest nothing has changed for me I still get up in the morning to go to work and pay taxes. Everyone is entitled to vote and the circumstances of their own situations affects their decision.

MaizieD Sun 16-Mar-25 08:28:39

Brexit emboldened Putin, who helped to finance it. It brought us the most appallingly corrupt, careless and incompetent PM. of my lifetime who was the worst person to be in charge during the covid crisis. It has diminished our national income and held down growth by erecting trade barriers between the UK and its largest market. We are no more independent of EU regulations than we were as anyone who trades with the EU has to conform to them, we just have no say in their formation.

It has lost some people their livelihoods and caused problems for EU citizens wanting to live permanently in the UK. It caused problems in Northern Ireland which are now contained but not solved.

The loss of the Dublin agreement has exacerbated the problem of asylum seekers arriving by small boats.

There is much more, but I CBA to spend too long on this.

It’s nice to know about the lovely lives some people have had since 2016, but that doesn’t mean that Brexit was any less of the huge mistake it has turned out to be.

I suggest that if you don’t like the topic you don’t respond to posts about it, it brings out the worst in people (another Brexit benefit it seems, licence to be unpleasant)

Allira Sat 15-Mar-25 23:08:37

Still awaiting answers to my questions.

It looks as if I'll have to do some research, all very well, but I was hoping for some insight from someone who might have actual experience. ☹

Barleyfields Sat 15-Mar-25 21:53:53

I too have had a lovely life since 2016. I can’t begin to imagine being so consumed with anger and rage. It can’t be a good place to be.

Pantglas2 Sat 15-Mar-25 21:24:01

Claremont

Way way out of order. I won't report, it's too pathetic, It is my country, my DHs country, my ACs country and my GCs country.

So be as pissed off as you wish. That is your problem, not mine.

There are no reasons you can give to moderators- I've always been polite, thanks.

You seem to be the one that’s pissed off…? How is that anyone else’s problem?

All seemingly since 2016… some of us have had a lovely life since then, within Europe without much restriction and no doubt that irritates you more!