J D Vance Munich address today.

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Then again it seems Trump as no idea about geopolitics either.

Yes the tide is turning but this is not going to benefit most ordinary Americans and certainly not those outside the US except Russia.
So those who see this as a good thing are either part of Trump’s or Putin’s inner circle or have absolutely no idea about geopolitics.

Sago

I really feel the tide is turning.

I do hope so

Dorrain

Claremont

Or the number of pets missing!

I thought this was a serious situation?

Yet you are being sarcastic and flippant with this comment

Well, I would not have mentionned this- but as Trump clearly said this during his campaign, it shows the level he is operating at!

Rula

Nobody in Germany expects AfD to win. They don't expect to win either.

Pretty sure they'll come 2nd. But support for them is growing especially amongst the younger generations.

The world is changing. Politics is not as we used to know it.

This seems a true reflection of the voting there in today’s news.

Does one have to be an old poster to have strong views?

Talking of reporting for stalking and harassment is plainly ridiculous.There are hundreds of comments by Claremont on here and hardly any at all from Dorrain.
I suspect what you mean MaizieD is that you agree with the posts by one poster but not the other.

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Claremont

Or the number of pets missing!

I thought this was a serious situation?

Yet you are being sarcastic and flippant with this comment

Or the number of pets missing!

Babs03

Undocumented immigrants are counted by the authorities as they enter a country then detained pending their case being heard. This happens as Mexicans enter the US through border control and in the UK as immigrants enter either by boat or plane etc. Very few enter without being processed in some way, very few try to enter in the back of a truck or under a truck to avoid being processed, the majority want to be processed so they get a chance to stay legally.
But because they haven't applied for the necessary documentation to enter the country they are called undocumented.

Ah, that makes sense. I thought these numbers were arrived at by measuring the amount of sewage in major cities, according to quoted reputable sources in The Telegraph.

Churchview

I don't.
These people know the answer to your question though.
cmsny.org/us-undocumented-population-increased-in-july-2023-warren-090624/

and

www.visualcapitalist.com/share-of-illegal-immigrants-across-9-developed-countries/

Churchview, as many undocumented imigrants work and pay tax they could probably get some idea by looking at the numbers paying their emergency who don't transfer onto a normal code.

Sorry Churchview our posts crossed.
Of course I only have my limited experience of working as a volunteer with asylum seekers, am sure there are many other ways of collecting the data.

Undocumented immigrants are counted by the authorities as they enter a country then detained pending their case being heard. This happens as Mexicans enter the US through border control and in the UK as immigrants enter either by boat or plane etc. Very few enter without being processed in some way, very few try to enter in the back of a truck or under a truck to avoid being processed, the majority want to be processed so they get a chance to stay legally.
But because they haven't applied for the necessary documentation to enter the country they are called undocumented.

I don't.
These people know the answer to your question though.
cmsny.org/us-undocumented-population-increased-in-july-2023-warren-090624/

and

www.visualcapitalist.com/share-of-illegal-immigrants-across-9-developed-countries/

Churchview

The number of undocumented immigrants in the USA is 22% of all immigrants.

In the UK it's 7%...much lower in other EU countries.

Vance needs to look in his own back yard for 'unfettered' immigration.

How do you count undocumented immigrants?

Freya5 I really think you need to look up the definition of fascism!

Rula

Nobody in Germany expects AfD to win. They don't expect to win either.

Pretty sure they'll come 2nd. But support for them is growing especially amongst the younger generations.

The world is changing. Politics is not as we used to know it.

AfD haven’t massively increased their vote share though. They got 14.8% of the vote in 2017, dropped by 2.2% in 2021, and are predicted to get 21.4% this time. So they will have increased their vote share by 6.6% compared with 2017. Is that a seismic change or a sign that people are disillusioned at the moment with the ruling party? I think we need to stay grounded in the facts here.

The number of undocumented immigrants in the USA is 22% of all immigrants.

In the UK it's 7%...much lower in other EU countries.

Vance needs to look in his own back yard for 'unfettered' immigration.

Freya5

Babs03

MayBee70

My partner just said that Vance met with the leader of the far right in Germany, but not the Chancellor.

Yes, because he is alt right. Makes sense. Musk also spoke to the same political group by vid.
Perhaps when Trump visits the UK he will spend more time with Farage and Tice rather than Starmer.
Far right fascists prefer like minded people.

Neither Farage or Tice are "far right fascists ".
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of fascists.
Starmer and crew showing more of fascism than any Government I have ever known.

So why do Farage and Tice align themselves with far right fascists?
Actually I only really need to use the word fascists, seeing as you don't actually have fascists on the left of the political spectrum, on the far left you can have totalitarianism but not facism.

Nobody in Germany expects AfD to win. They don't expect to win either.

Pretty sure they'll come 2nd. But support for them is growing especially amongst the younger generations.

The world is changing. Politics is not as we used to know it.

That gave us a laugh anyway Freya5, and they are in short supply today. The new socialist fascists are everywhere I’m sure…..

Freya5

Babs03

MayBee70

My partner just said that Vance met with the leader of the far right in Germany, but not the Chancellor.

Yes, because he is alt right. Makes sense. Musk also spoke to the same political group by vid.
Perhaps when Trump visits the UK he will spend more time with Farage and Tice rather than Starmer.
Far right fascists prefer like minded people.

Neither Farage or Tice are "far right fascists ".
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of fascists.
Starmer and crew showing more of fascism than any Government I have ever known.

Babs03

MayBee70

My partner just said that Vance met with the leader of the far right in Germany, but not the Chancellor.

Yes, because he is alt right. Makes sense. Musk also spoke to the same political group by vid.
Perhaps when Trump visits the UK he will spend more time with Farage and Tice rather than Starmer.
Far right fascists prefer like minded people.

Neither Farage or Tice are "far right fascists ".
Perhaps you should look up the meaning of fascists.
Starmer and crew showing more of fascism than any Government I have ever known.

Casdon

It looks like the Christian Democrats are quite a way ahead of the AfD far right party, Vance is backing the wrong horse if the polls are right.
www.reuters.com/graphics/GERMANY-ELECTION/POLLS/akveedlravr/

Let’s hope so. Best thing I’ve read all day. Thanks.