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Inspiring speech from Trump to Congress

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Arto1s Wed 05-Mar-25 05:41:24

I was very encouraged by his speech. The Democrats reacted like sulky children.

Iam64 Wed 05-Mar-25 09:15:48

theworriedwell

Arto1s

You really think it’s OK to have transgender men in women’s sport? How can you possibly support this? We need the Republicans to bring back COMMENCE SENSE

Transgender men in women's sport or big powerful countries invading smaller countries. Hard to decide which is the bigger issue - well no it isn't hard at all.

Even Trump might get something right but his overall approach to women is frightening.

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 09:17:24

Kandinsky

You think the price of eggs is as important as eradicating women’s rights?

Actually, you probably do, if you’re representing the views of the majority on this board.

The price of food is very important to most people in most countries, especially when there are so many now jobless and without health insurance.

Women need to eat.
Women need medical care.
Women need jobs.

As for eradicating women’s rights, what on earth do you think the abortion bill has done?

In terms of protecting women and their “safe spaces”, I think every women and most men on here would agree that is an important issue.

Let’s not forget though, most men, either biological or transitioned, are not a danger to women.

Kandinsky Wed 05-Mar-25 09:25:19

The transgender sport issue is about a tiny percentage of people; the reproductive rights issue impacts millions of women

Firstly, it might only be a tiny percentage now ( although it’s significantly high in my opinion ) but what will it be like in 20 years?

And in time you won’t be able to say ‘the reproductive rights of women’. - it will be ‘the reproductive rights of people with wombs’. - have you seen some of the NHS literature?

But none of this matters to you.
I’m not entirely sure what matters to most of the posters on this board tbh.

Kandinsky Wed 05-Mar-25 09:25:47

Apart from the price of eggs of course.

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 09:26:03

Aveline

I know I shouldn't have commented on Artols poor spelling but I was just so incensed by the comments made.
Thousands will starve and die as a direct result of that monster's shocking decisions. What kind of a human could rejoice in his pronouncements? Certainly not one I'd ever wish to know.

Nor I!

Don’t worry about it, we know that many in the USA and some in other countries do support Trump.

When those Americans, still living in America, start to feel the pain of Trump’s Executive Orders, and lose their jobs and/or healthcare, and whose food bills will rise, and whose pregnant daughters are denied proper healthcare if their pregnancies are not healthy, almost 1,000,000 early pregnancies result in spontaneous miscarriage in the USA every year, once all of the aforementioned start to affect Trump voters perhaps they’ll think again!

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 09:31:07

Kandinsky

*The transgender sport issue is about a tiny percentage of people; the reproductive rights issue impacts millions of women*

Firstly, it might only be a tiny percentage now ( although it’s significantly high in my opinion ) but what will it be like in 20 years?

And in time you won’t be able to say ‘the reproductive rights of women’. - it will be ‘the reproductive rights of people with wombs’. - have you seen some of the NHS literature?

But none of this matters to you.
I’m not entirely sure what matters to most of the posters on this board tbh.

Mmmm Sounds like you are just a tad transphobic?

It’s still a very small proportion of our population who transition and it’s not just male to female is it, female to male transition happens too.

I cannot pretend to understand those who wish to transition, whatever there reasons, but I also have no issues with them in general.

My fear in USA is once those transitioned have been targetted Trump will move onto gay people.

He simply doesn’t like anyone who doesn’t fit his mould of a “real American citizen” Sound familiar?

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 09:34:10

Kandinsky

Apart from the price of eggs of course.

Why do you say this?

I would say, very clearly, that imo most of the people on this site care about the rights of ALL human beings, the right to make decisions about their lives, their bodies and go about their own business in safety, provided all of them are acting both morally and legally.

Transitional women who attack women are doing this because they are criminals, just like the biological men and women who commit violent crimes.

LizzieDrip Wed 05-Mar-25 09:42:38

Kandinsky what matters to me is the right of women to have autonomy over their own bodies.

I do not want to go back to a time when women’s bodies were the property of men - something that women have fought against for so long.

How dare a bunch of men tell our daughters and grand daughters what they can and cannot do with their own bodies - putting their lives at risk in the process.

I’m shocked that those who call themselves feminists apparently applaud this!

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 09:45:40

LizzieDrip

Kandinsky what matters to me is the right of women to have autonomy over their own bodies.

I do not want to go back to a time when women’s bodies were the property of men - something that women have fought against for so long.

How dare a bunch of men tell our daughters and grand daughters what they can and cannot do with their own bodies - putting their lives at risk in the process.

I’m shocked that those who call themselves feminists apparently applaud this!

Well said! 👏👏👏

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 05-Mar-25 09:46:50

Kandyinsky, perhaps any child whose mother died of ( completely preventable) sepsis following a miscarriage may feel that she/ he has had some of his/ her rights removed. Perhaps the no transgender- in - sport lobby might like to take up their cause, too.

PoliticsNerd Wed 05-Mar-25 09:47:26

Arto1s

You really think it’s OK to have transgender men in women’s sport? How can you possibly support this? We need the Republicans to bring back COMMENCE SENSE

So this is the most important thing you can think of?

(And please font shout)

PoliticsNerd Wed 05-Mar-25 09:48:00

don't !!!

Claremont Wed 05-Mar-25 09:52:15

The trans people I know are all kind and no danger to anyone at all. And NO danger to anyone, be they women, children, or just anyone.

But the only thing I agree with, with Trump, is that transgender people who have chosen to trans to female, should NOT be allowed to compete in sport against biological women. The ONLY thing.

But in the grand scale of things- this is a tiny, minuscule thing- Trump has destroyed so many much more important women's rights.

As for Artol, she knows she is goading in the extreme, very deliberately. I'd say ignore would be by far the very best thing to do.

Katek Wed 05-Mar-25 09:52:29

Transgender issues in US are predominantly a diversionary tactic so there will be (they think) less focus on creeping domestic price rises and job losses. Tariffs will hit sectors of the U.S. economy particularly hard, including car production, energy, and food sectors. Fuel prices will surge as Canada and Mexico supply more than 70 percent of crude oil imports to U.S. refineries. No more cheap fuel! US also imports nearly half its car parts from Canada and Mexico and Mexico provides over 60% of fresh food imports. Trade tariffs have a much wider impact on the country imposing them than one would first assume.

Still I suppose keeping transgender men out of women's sport will provide immense comfort when your grocery cart costs way more.

PoliticsNerd Wed 05-Mar-25 09:54:44

ronib

Bird flu resulted in culling of birds and high prices under Biden. Don’t see how that could have been avoided?
Food prices become important.

I didn't realise you were American. Where in America do you live? Obviously not the same part as my brother and his family as they have found prices higher under the current regime. Oh, and no problem with bird culling (?) either.

Poor you. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this.

Claremont Wed 05-Mar-25 09:58:50

Bird flu has been an issue in many countries, but prices have not gone up in such a way as in the USA.

BTW bird flu is a much bigger problem with poor husbandry and poor space, industrial style farming, which is very much an issue in the USA.

Grandmabatty Wed 05-Mar-25 09:59:04

Apparently Trump said in his 'wonderful' speech that he's going to get Greenland, one way or another.
This man is delusional and between that, and his attacks on Canada as a sovereign nation, I think he has some form of dementia which the republican party are ignoring.

Claremont Wed 05-Mar-25 10:03:21

In recent months, the H5N1 bird flu virus has made alarming inroads into U.S. dairy farms, infecting cattle and farmworkers alike. This development underscores a growing public health crisis linked to factory farming, where the drive for inexpensive food is inadvertently setting the stage for potential pandemics.

The Factory Farming Dilemma

Factory farming, characterized by the high-density confinement of animals, has long been criticized for its ethical and environmental shortcomings. However, the recent spread of bird flu among dairy cattle highlights another critical issue: the role of these industrial-scale operations in the proliferation of zoonotic diseases.

According to the Center for Biological Diversity, factory farms are at the heart of the latest bird flu outbreak, which has led to the euthanizing of over 90 million poultry in the U.S. alone since 2022. The virus has also been detected in dairy products, raising concerns about food safety. The crowded, stressful, and often unsanitary conditions in these facilities create a perfect storm for the rapid transmission and mutation of viruses, increasing the risk of spillover to humans.

Claremont Wed 05-Mar-25 10:05:47

Mitigating the Risk

To mitigate the risk of bird flu and other zoonotic diseases, experts advocate for a shift towards more humane and sustainable farming practices. This includes reducing animal densities, improving living conditions, and enhancing biosecurity measures.

If anything, Trum and co would prefer to further intensify farming methods, and thus put the population of USA and beyond, at massive risk of another pandemic.

mum2three Wed 05-Mar-25 10:07:23

I think it was fate that put Trump in the White House. The Democrats are weak and needed to be taught a valuable lesson...choose your candidates carefully. Trump would never have been elected if there had been a decent alternative.

Babs03 Wed 05-Mar-25 10:12:05

mum2three

I think it was fate that put Trump in the White House. The Democrats are weak and needed to be taught a valuable lesson...choose your candidates carefully. Trump would never have been elected if there had been a decent alternative.

Right now a wooden plank feels like a decent alternative, but of course the democrats are also to blame for this travesty. We need a strong and charismatic leader of the democrats like Obama.
I would love to see his wife Michelle seek to be a candidate but I doubt she would want it.

Syracute Wed 05-Mar-25 10:17:35

Arto1s

You really think it’s OK to have transgender men in women’s sport? How can you possibly support this? We need the Republicans to bring back COMMENCE SENSE

Trump is creating chaos with his nonsensical tariff agreements that are crashing the US economy . Prices are rising dramatically and will continue to do so . He is creating an isolated USA where no one will have anything to do with him because he is rash and unpredictable . He is quoted in the past saying if the stock market loses more than a 1000 points we should impeach the President . So when shall we start the proceedings ?

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 10:18:03

mum2three

I think it was fate that put Trump in the White House. The Democrats are weak and needed to be taught a valuable lesson...choose your candidates carefully. Trump would never have been elected if there had been a decent alternative.

Really? Fate or much better campaigning and a white man and $$$$$$$

westendgirl Wed 05-Mar-25 10:19:08

I think Trump and his henchman showed their true colours last Friday.He is still using threatening talk (e.g. when talking about Greenland, saying that he will get it "one way or another" ). For this reason I do not think this man should be in power any where. He is doing untold damage not only to his own country but to the rest of the world.

Cossy Wed 05-Mar-25 10:19:53

Babs

I too would love to see Michelle Obama run…. Is America ready for a black, female president?

Would she want this poisoned chalice?