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I wonder what does Selena Gomez have to say about this?

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 16-Mar-25 20:49:59

She was vociferous in her condemnation of Trump’s deportation orders in January’25 and posted her tears on Insta.

Donald Trump's "border tsar" has vehemently defended a drive to deport unlawful migrants after singer and actress Selena Gomez posted a tearful video saying: "All my people are being attacked, and children."

The star, who has Mexican heritage, sobbed uncontrollably on camera, adding: "I wish I could do something but I can't." She captioned her video with "I'm sorry" alongside a Mexican flag emoji.

But Tom Homan, responding to Gomez and others with similar views, told Fox News: , external"If they don't like it, then go to Congress and change the law. We're going to do this operation without apology."

Well now today, 238 members of the feared Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua are deported from America and hauled into El Salvador's notoriously tough Terrorism Confinement Centre - as Trump delivers on election promise.

I say well done Trump. Getting rid of violent gang members making America that bit safer.

Rula Tue 18-Mar-25 21:13:22

The European Commission presented on Tuesday a new regulation that, if approved, will enable member states to transfer rejected asylum seekers to distant countries where they have never set foot, signalling a transformative shift in migration policy.

The law falls short of establishing an EU-wide programme to build deportation centres (or "return hubs", as Brussels calls them) but lays the necessary legal groundwork to allow governments to strike arrangements with nations outside the bloc that might be willing to host migrants in return for financial incentives.

Casdon Tue 18-Mar-25 21:16:27

So the EU isn’t looking at doing it then Rula, it’s up to individual countries to operate if they wish, using a common set of rules. That’s not quite the same thing.

imaround Wed 19-Mar-25 03:47:36

More people being taken off the streets and disappearing. Just gone. Attorneys and family can't get any answers on who and where they are being held.

"At least 48 people ICE described as “illegal aliens” were arrested in a week-long series of operations in Albuquerque, Roswell, and Santa Fe earlier this month, according to the agency. But only 21 people had final orders of removal from the country.

“This is not just a procedural issue — it’s a serious human rights violation,” according to Rebecca Sheff, senior staff attorney at ACLU of New Mexico."

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/new-mexico-ice-arrests-aclu-complaint-b2717442.html

imaround Wed 19-Mar-25 21:33:47

Regarding the Venezuelans who have been imprisoned in El Salvador. The ones they say are gang members, but really aren't. Then judge asked Trumps team to turn over the information proving they are gang members.

Trumps attorneys told the court today that the fact that ICE does not have a complete dossier on these people proves they are terrorists.

So now being Venezuelan with no proof of being gang members is enough for you to be sent to prison in a country you don't belong in.

storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.26.1_1.pdf

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Mar-25 21:48:52

There is evidence in there of some very nasty stuff but unattributed to individuals/generalising and for example rounding people up for being in the same house as known gang members?

imaround Thu 20-Mar-25 23:25:53

I wasn't aware of this case yet. A woman from Wales backpacking through North America. They said she was "working" in the US because she helped with chores in exchange for a place to stay as she was moving through.

They put her in chains and held her for 9 days.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd3prze9yjo

imaround Fri 21-Mar-25 03:18:41

The evidence is starting to come out for those Venezuelans who were deported. This article has more information, but basically they are trying to tie random tattoos to gangs.

It is disgusting that these people are being sent to a prison in El Salvador indefinitely with no recourse.

slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/03/immigration-trump-news-mass-deportations-tren-de-aragua.html

Allira Sat 22-Mar-25 23:02:25

imaround

I wasn't aware of this case yet. A woman from Wales backpacking through North America. They said she was "working" in the US because she helped with chores in exchange for a place to stay as she was moving through.

They put her in chains and held her for 9 days.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjd3prze9yjo

This is dreadful, it's the first I've heard of it. Rebecca was taken to the plane in chains to be deported.
This could happen to any young person wanting to experience a few weeks travelling in the USA.

The local MP has become involved.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 23-Mar-25 08:45:27

Many countries are, quite rightly, informing their citizens that the USA may not be a safe place for travel.
This will have a significant negative impact on their tourist industry.
I wonder any rendered unemployed thereafter voted for Mr Trump because they wished him to " send people home". An example, possibly, of the old adage about being careful what you wish for.

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Mar-25 09:38:04

Germany and the UK have issued warnings/advice, as have other counters for specific circumstances
nymag.com/intelligencer/article/foreign-travel-warnings-about-us-travel.html

Wyllow3 Sun 23-Mar-25 09:38:23

Other countries, not counters.

imaround Sun 23-Mar-25 23:17:48

Trump has claimed, on TV so he can't deny it, that he did not sign the EO for the Alien Insurrection Act. He doesn't know who signed it.

www.cnn.com/2025/03/21/politics/trump-signature-alien-enemies-act-proclamation/index.html

This is going to be a big mess this week.

Wyllow3 Mon 24-Mar-25 00:11:12

Liar, given the copy available!
Mind you, I can imagine him signing something shoved in front of him without understanding a word.

imaround Mon 24-Mar-25 01:39:30

He has no clue what he is signing. This is all Project 2025 Heritage Foundation agenda.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 12:40:47

I understood he signed that particular proclamation within ours of becoming President.
Dud he actually read anything he signed?

Other young women from other countries have been detained in horrendous conditions. One Canadian woman has said that the world should be made aware of the dreadful conditions women are being kept in, told nothing, classed as illegal aliens because they allegedly had the wrong visas.

Actress Jasmine Mooney said:
'I've never seen anything like this,' she told the outlet. 'I feel like we have been kidnapped, and we are in some sort of insane social, psychological, social experiment.'

Welling up, Mooney added: 'I really want to be a voice for the women in here, because what is happening is so unjust and I know that there's a better way to do this.'

She also noted how her time in custody made her severely confused.

'It’s been 11 days now, and I have no idea what is going on, they don't tell you anything, and I have lost so much weight. I'm truly, physically, weak.'

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 12:49:44

Canadian Jasmine Mooney:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-detained-us-immigration-jasmine-mooney

Becky Burke:
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/18/british-tourist-rebecca-burke-held-by-us-over-visa-released-from-detention-says-family

The immigration jobsworths who were lurking in the woodwork now have a licence to treat women tourists like the worst of criminals because of Trump.

imaround Mon 24-Mar-25 13:40:52

My own daughter is in Hungary right now. I am worried about her being harassed. Citizens are having phones checked for anti-Trump rhetoric when they hit customs.

She will probably be fine, but I am headed to London and Paris in June and I would certainly be detained for anti Trump rhetoric.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 15:49:44

Citizens are having phones checked for anti-Trump rhetoric when they hit customs.
😯 Delete browsing history, cookies and messages!

They'll be tracking posters on Gransnet next.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 15:50:57

I'll warn a member of my family who is going to the USA in a couple of months.

Maremia Mon 24-Mar-25 19:23:02

Would using a burner phone help? No back history. Or would that prove you were a criminal?
Trump and his bullies are disgusting.

Maremia Mon 24-Mar-25 19:25:57

Any of you who are on Facebook, are you getting an insane number of adverts for trips to the States? The boycotts must be starting to work.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Mon 24-Mar-25 20:06:08

Goodness. What nonsense this sounds!
Queues would be out of the door.
Yes (maybe, perhaps) a slight degree of ‘profiling’? But c’mon …
😂

imaround Mon 24-Mar-25 21:45:52

Well, here is some proof for you FGT. 🙄

www.npr.org/2017/04/11/523313829/more-travelers-are-being-asked-for-their-cellphones-and-passwords-entering-u-s

imaround Mon 24-Mar-25 22:10:44

I look forward to you proving me wrong FGT.

Allira Mon 24-Mar-25 22:57:23

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Goodness. What nonsense this sounds!
Queues would be out of the door.
Yes (maybe, perhaps) a slight degree of ‘profiling’? But c’mon …
😂

Have you read my links about the young women detained and the conditions they were held in?
Handcuffed, escorted in chains to be deported.

Strange that they were allowed into the USA on a particular visa and it was apparently fine when granted but not when trying to leave to go to another country.
All the bullying jobsworths have been given permission to act as they wish.