Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

Well, since the government of Gaza state it wants to wipe out all Jews from the planet I guess BN was responding in kind.
No country around Gaza wants Palestinians, they will have to stay in Gaza with a very, very different government for the future.

A leaked video from 2001 shows Israeli PM Netanyahu talking about how Israel intentionally strikes Palestinians “painfully”, how he deceived the US to break the Oslo Accords, and how Americans will always support Israel if it faces backlash.

Claremont

Oreo

Maremia

Victim blaming? Someone made that crazy decision, and those poor folk suffered. Yes, I would still like to know if anyone has had the courage to admit it, and explain why they put those youngsters into such danger.

FGS!
It was Israeli land! Stop with the conspiracy theories .

What was, Gaza and the West Bank? No it was not.

Your reply doesn't make sense. Oreo is referring to where the music festivals were held, and that was definitely Israeli land. Maremia seems to think there was something conspiratorial about the chosen location.
The people, men, women and children who were murdered, raped and taken as hostages were all on Israeli land.

Boz

To try and find a justification for the October massacre is appalling. Innocent people were kidnapped or hacked to death by drug-crazed terrorists. A medieval massacre that earned a full military response from a modern nation.

No-one, but no-one, is trying to find justification, at all.

What some of us are saying, as many Jews in Israel and around the world, is that Netanyahu had all the intelligence, sophisticated equipment, military and otherwise, to stop it happening.

He didn't. Top people in the IDF resigned because of this, and made the accusations themselves, that he didn't take intelligence and warnings seriously. And others are going beyond this and saying it was deliberate to allow him to finally do what he had planned for so long, but needed 'an excuse'. We won't know if this was true. But we do know, without any doubt, is that it was his plan for a very long time- and that he didn't take warnings and intelligence from the very top, seriously and didn't plan to respond and stop this attack, as he could have done.

Thanks for explanation Rosie. Yes, it was Israeli land- but in the circumstances, with all the warnings and intelligence of an imminent attack, it was truly irresponsible in the extreme to hold the festival so close. And I can understand that some wonder what the justification was for this.

Conspiracy theories aren't really helping, Claremont, when there is so much anguish on both sides.

Oreo

Well, since the government of Gaza state it wants to wipe out all Jews from the planet I guess BN was responding in kind.
No country around Gaza wants Palestinians, they will have to stay in Gaza with a very, very different government for the future.

That is precisely what the plan developed by Egypt, adopted by most Arab states and supported by the EU would have done, but Israel and the US rejected it.

Gazans would have stayed where they were and the land would have been governed by a technocrat government without Hamas.

There would have had to be further negotiations about the West Bank. The Israeli government is currently pouring in loads of money to encourage and support Israeli settlers on Palestinian land.

It's not going to happen until Hamas, Netanyahu and Trumpington have all gone.

The 12th of Never.

The video of his intentions in 2001 is not a conspiracy theory, however. Neither is the fact that repeated warnings were given, to the very top, and that the Head of the Army services resigned because Netanyahu chose to ignore.

The only question is about whether the attack was allowed to happen to enable him to do what he had been planning since so long, and clearly since 2001. We will probably never know- but it is nt surprising, in the circumstances, that some have come to that conclusion.

Allira

It's not going to happen until Hamas, Netanyahu and Trumpington have all gone.

The 12th of Never.

I fear you are correct - and then there will be other people to take their places.

Here is a ling to that 2001 video. His intentions are clear, and so are the concerns of the woman in reply to his plans.

www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/17es58s/a_leaked_video_from_2001_shows_israeli_pm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Claremont

The video of his intentions in 2001 is not a conspiracy theory, however. Neither is the fact that repeated warnings were given, to the very top, and that the Head of the Army services resigned because Netanyahu chose to ignore.

The only question is about whether the attack was allowed to happen to enable him to do what he had been planning since so long, and clearly since 2001. We will probably never know- but it is nt surprising, in the circumstances, that some have come to that conclusion.

I don't really go for the conspiracy theory. However, I do think that Israeli security took its eye off the ball along the Gaza boundary because it thought the greater threat would come in the West Bank, where Israeli has been grabbing Palestinian land with impunity.

Wonder who translated

Anniebach

Wonder who translated

Friends whose native tongue is Hebrew and who are themselves translators confirmed it was correct.

And others are going beyond this and saying it was deliberate to allow him to finally do what he had planned for so long, but needed 'an excuse'.

That is a conspiracy theory.

Quote Claremont Fri 21-Mar-25 17:56:16
Anniebach
Wonder who translated
Friends whose native tongue is Hebrew and who are themselves translators confirmed it was correct.

Sorry but I pass,, you speak of conspiracy theory ,,perhaps the same friends who translated spoke of it too

Get your own people to check then.

Any Hebrew speakers here?

No need for translation here, this holocaust survivor calling this genocide

www.facebook.com/share/r/19ZjW8ZiZy/

Thats a very good video

Quote

"You don't liberate the hostages by bombing
You negotiate"

Wyllow3

Thats a very good video

Quote

"You don't liberate the hostages by bombing
You negotiate"

Only with a reasonable enemy.Hamas are totally unreasonable.

Me thinks hysteria has developed

Oh indeed Annie, indeed. For once, we agree.

I doubt it very much

Wyllow3

Thats a very good video

Quote

"You don't liberate the hostages by bombing
You negotiate"

Stephen Kapos is an 87 year old holocaust survivor. Are you saying he is 'hysterical' Annie, really?
And I am quite sure you've not even bothered to listen to what he has to say. And he says it clearly 'this is genocide'.

●"Yes, it is genocide in Gaza. This is exactly what genocide looks like". Amos Goldberg, professor of Holocaust History at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/.../prof-amos.../

●"A textbook case of genocide". Raz Segal (Hebrew: רז סגל) is an Israeli historian residing in the United States who is Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Endowed Professor in the Study of Genocide
jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

●"Genocide in plain sight".