Will the Supreme Court protect Women's Rights?

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J K Rowling is vindicated! Wonder what a certain Daniel Radcliffe makes of that?

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Transgender women are not legally women, Britain’s highest court has declared in a landmark ruling hailed as a victory by JK Rowling.

Supreme Court judges unanimously ruled that the terms “woman” and “sex” in the 2010 Equality Act referred to biological sex, not acquired gender.

Wednesday’s judgment was hailed as a victory for common sense by gender-critical campaigners and politicians, with JK Rowling saying it would protect “the rights of women and girls across the UK”.

Kemi Badenoch, the Tory leader, said the ruling meant that the “era of Keir Starmer telling us women can have penises has come to an end”.

It followed a years-long legal battle between campaign group For Women Scotland and the Scottish Government over the definition of a woman.

Lord Hodge told the court: “The unanimous decision of this court is that the definition of the terms woman and sex in the Equality Act 2010 refer to a biological woman and biological sex.”

In its 88-page ruling, the court added that the “concept of sex is binary” under the Equality Act 2010.”

Yay!

Yay indeed FriedGreenTomatoes
And Yay to all the women posting here, in relief that 5 high court judges know what a woman is.
Luminance - get over yourself. Apologies for a personal comment but I’m so tired and fed up with nonsense

I will support and hold up my fellow women but I will tread on no other group to do it.

And that, in a nutshell, is what has lead us to today's court hearing. Unfortunately, the TRAs didn't get your memo and instead of securing their own rights and safe spaces they aggressively trod on the existing rights and safe spaces that biological women spent many years carving out for themselves. A good example of this was when a group of women from Afghanistan and Iran tried to hold a 3 day feminists meeting in Glasgow to discuss such topics as FGM; a subject that would have no bearing or consequence to anyone other than a biological woman. TRAs led abusive chants as attendees, many of whom were older women, queued to enter. Shouting "keep terfs out of Glasgow" and "transphobia kills and hurts all women", despite knowing that most of the attendees were refugees and of the Muslim faith, they did their level best to get the meeting cancelled altogether. They had no respect for either traumatised women, vulnerable women, women for whom their faith or culture made being with men impossible or the simple fact that some subjects, such as FGM, just wouldn't apply to them. So yeah; you're 100% right Luminance, let's not tread on no other group to do it maybe send them the memo again

It is a blooming wonderful day, and should be celebrated every year along with IWD.

I watched this morning, and cried with relief, and grateful thanks that my 3 grand daughters, and all other young girls and women will not have to put up with the rubbish that we have had to endure during the last 10 years or so.
So much work by so many women, but especially by 'For Women Scotland' group who were given leave to appeal to the Supreme Court to settle the matter. Wonderful women.

Another excellent post Carlotta. The 'care, respect and consideration' only ever went one way didnt it, and it wasn't towards females.

We are not at war with trans people, the war is against ignorance and discrimination against any group or so it should be. Women won a hard fought battle today and the lines were shown to be clear. There is no need to cross them as women, we need not push anyone down to be who we are and be heard. Neither in discussion or in opinion.

Send TRAs your sermon Luminance they need it more than we do.

I do not know any "TRA" or whatever they are, I am rather simply, here as myself.

Yes they do Carlotta; we do not.

Luminance

I do not know any "TRA" or whatever they are, I am rather simply, here as myself.

I'm not sure that's allowed Luminance.

I don't know what a TRA is either but then I'm glad not to belong to the group such jargon identifies.

I am rather simply, here as myself.

Precisely Luminance! And isn't it a damned shame that 3 women have had to go to the Supreme Court today to say exactly that and to have it passed down as a rule of law that only a human being that has two X chromosomes is a woman? And that no matter how a human being with one X and one Y chromosome dresses, thinks or presents themselves, they are not, nor ever will be, a woman? But we all knew that all along didn't we?

TRA =Trans rights activist
How anyone can say they have any knowledge of what this whole struggle has been about but then say they have no idea what TRA means is either extremely uninformed or untruthful.

Carlotta
you have put it so truthfully and succinctly in today’s posts.
Even though it might fall on stony ground
Thanks a lot.

Carlotta Wed 16-Apr-25 18:56:55

Another great post.

Rosie51

TRA =Trans rights activist
How anyone can say they have any knowledge of what this whole struggle has been about but then say they have no idea what TRA means is either extremely uninformed or untruthful.

disingenuous is the word I think

Or maybe goady……….

Waves to Carlotta and sends thanks for your posts. I’m trying hard not to shout UP THE SISTERHOOD

Rosie51

TRA =Trans rights activist
How anyone can say they have any knowledge of what this whole struggle has been about but then say they have no idea what TRA means is either extremely uninformed or untruthful.

Hard to know which they’d prefer really.

PoliticsNerd

Luminance

I do not know any "TRA" or whatever they are, I am rather simply, here as myself.

I'm not sure that's allowed Luminance.

I don't know what a TRA is either but then I'm glad not to belong to the group such jargon identifies.

TRA
Trans Rights Activists

You surprised me that you did not know that, Luminance.
Nor PoliticsNerd, surely someone so politically aware should know that?

Now Trans Rights campaigners will need to start campaigning for their own safe spaces just as women have done.

It could take some time but will be worth it.

Why on earth would I know what a "TRA" is? As an acronym it could have meant anything at all. I have never seen it in the news that is for certain. Thank you for explaining what is meant but it is as outrageous to say I would pretend ignorance as it is to say I am somehow allied with it.

You're very welcome.

I was surprised because you seem to be very involved with these issues and was quite knowledgeable about trans issues.
Many apologies if I misunderstood.

I guess knowledge of TRAs would be more common in Scotland than rUK, given Scotland was led by one.

Well I have been trying to get a feel of the climate here and I have found little support for trans people not involved in this and I have seen open comments that denigrate trans people. I've simply pointed out that those things do not sit well with me and there is no need for them in any discussion.

My original post was about women's rights, to get a better "feel of the climate here" for trans people maybe start a separate post. Whilst all threads wander, this one has in some quite dubious ways.
I've known trans people, l know the relatives of trans people, l respect them as much as l respect other people. I have no respect for trans activists and political parties that promote one group's rights at the expense of another.

Therein lies a difficulty.

What trans rights Luminance, PN et al are you saying there is no support for?

I am asking again, because so far there has been a lot of accusations, but no clarification.

The only transrights we ever hear of in the news is where TW want to cheat by entering female sports, or lie their way into female safe spaces.

So it would be really useful to know from those with more expertise like Luminance and Politics Nerd . . .

What rights have trans asked for or in some cases demanded that don’t impinge on existing, hard fought female rights, meaning they would tread on others to get their rights?

In the days of living unnoticed or I wouldn’t have known, except trans, what rights did they demand that they did or didn’t get.