Will the Supreme Court protect Women's Rights?

And can we now have “they” back as a plural? Ban it please as an evasive way of saying something very odd indeed.

Yes I agree FGT, from a grammatical pov what's the point of teaching children singular and plural, but that pales into insignificance in imbuing them in the notion there are something in the region of 70 or so genders. Loading up young minds with unsubstantiated nonsense doesn't bode well for their futures depending on individual susceptibilities.

I wonder how many of these policies will be destroyed and rewritten, or will the perpetrators ignore the Ruling and continue to impose them, as is happening with the Cass report?

Galaxy

It is a better day, but imagine if 20 years ago someone had told us in the future you will be celebrating winning a legal case to prove men aren't women. It demonstrates what we have lost and had to fight to regain.

It’s unbelievable really isn’t it? The whole thing of these angry entitled men muscling in , literally in some cases into what only concerns women.
Transmen don’t seem to feel the need to be like this.There are men and women and transmen and transwomen and that’s the way it should stay.

Agreed. If all the energy that has gone into this fight had been used to promote acceptance of transpeople as just that, we would be a lot further ahead than we are. As it is, it will take time to undo the damage before we can make progress.

The TRAs have done everyone a huge disservice. Women, the 'quiet' transpeople, children who have had their bodies mutilated and their minds damaged, people who have lost jobs and been dragged through courts - the list goes on and on. Only Stonewall seems to have benefited from all of this, as they coerced councils and educational institutions into getting their Diversity Champion awards. It kept their people in jobs after they stopped being needed to fight for gay rights when that was achieved.

Actually I don't think stonewall have benefited in the end. Organisation after organisation has cut ties with them. A new organisation for lesbians, gay and bisexual people has been created, that wouldn't have happened if stonewall hadn't embraced this belief system.

No, in the end they lost, but they were kept going for a long time based on their insistence on adding a T to LGB.

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JK Rowling has lived with abuse and threat from TR As for stating that Transwomen are not women and they say they want to live without harassment and intimidation!

Everyone has a right to live free from harassment and intimidation, that includes trans people.

Luminance

Everyone has a right to live free from harassment and intimidation, that includes trans people.

And this ruling does absolutely nothing to take away that right.

ViceVersa quite right.

AGAA4

JK Rowling has lived with abuse and threat from TR As for stating that Transwomen are not women and they say they want to live without harassment and intimidation!

Yes but they don’t see the irony in that.

And trans people (well the noisy activists) can stop pushing their agenda.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And trans people (well the noisy activists) can stop pushing their agenda.

Not going to happen.
What will a new agenda look like?
Maybe pushing for their own safe spaces, their own sports competitions, admitting they’re trans so there’s no confusion about medical treatment, stop expecting others to lie.
How about coming out and publicly condemning all those trans and TRA who have caused the damage to all trans by their actions, or have threatened death or physical harm to females for speaking the truth.

I have been following this whole debate with considerable interest from some time now, and what has struck me has been the abuse and threats from the very vocal trans activities - who, ironically, are usually the first to be asking everyone else to 'be kind' to them.
No-one is stopping them from advocating for their own facilities, their own safe spaces and so on - but it has become very apparent that what some of them want is to instead trample all over women's rights to have their own safe, single sex spaces. Well, no more...

Julie Bindel:

“But men who identify as women have felt it necessary to bully their way into our changing rooms, sports, prison wings, and domestic violence and rape crisis centres. It is now time to stop. We have had enough. The women have revolted, and the end of a destructive era is now in sight.

I personally hope to never have to utter the words “gender identity” again, and to go back to dedicating 100 per cent of my campaigning time to fighting the male violence that is still so prevalent today.”

Where are trans people supposed to come out and publicly condemn people? What an odd thing to say.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And trans people (well the noisy activists) can stop pushing their agenda.

You only believe in freedom of expression for people who agree with you? I suppose I was aware of that but you seem not to be.

Luminance

Where are trans people supposed to come out and publicly condemn people? What an odd thing to say.

Well they and their TRA have had no problem coming out threatening and condemning females, so why should that suddenly be a problem?
What an odd thing for you to say, Luminance. Have you not noticed that happening?

Now get Stonewall out of every public and corporate organisation.
They are poison.

PoliticsNerd

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And trans people (well the noisy activists) can stop pushing their agenda.

You only believe in freedom of expression for people who agree with you? I suppose I was aware of that but you seem not to be.

I’m in exalted company with the judges of the Supreme Court.
Common sense eh?

I see this is far from over and more excuses are needed. Now every trans person whether involved in what went on or not must publicly apologise. Do we put them in stocks while they do it?

It's not yet over. No doubt we'll have men, aggrieved that their fantasy is at an end, still pushing at the boundaries, but at least we have legal clarity now.

Well, there we have it.