Israel to Conquer Gaza part 2.

Medicin Sans Frontiere comments on US-Israeli plan to militarise aid. I respect MSF as a reliable source.

"In this statement, MSF secretary-general Christopher Lockyear calls out the dehumanising and ineffective plan to militarise aid in Gaza. This US-Israel plan is being used to justify the continuation of a war without limits, and to displace people in what appears to be a broader strategy to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip"

msf.org.uk/article/gaza-msf-statement-us-israel-plan-militarise-aid

Article is 2 weeks old so up to date.

some detail, more in article.

"“The disastrous start of the food distribution coordinated by the newly created Gaza Humanitarian Foundation confirmed that the US-Israel plan to instrumentalise aid is ineffective.

On 27 May, the first afternoon of distribution in Rafah, south Gaza, dozens of people were shot and injured as wholly insufficient amounts of basic life-saving supplies were distributed amid chaos.

Palestinians – deprived of food, water and medical aid for nearly three months - were penned in by fences as they waited to receive basic necessities for survival. This is a stark reminder of the dehumanising treatment imposed by Israeli authorities for more than 19 months.

Through this dangerous and reckless approach, food is not being distributed where it’s needed most but is instead directed only to areas where Israeli forces choose to amass civilians.

This means the most vulnerable – especially the elderly and people with disabilities – have virtually no chance of accessing the food they desperately need.

The claim that this unprincipled, failing mechanism is necessary to prevent the diversion of aid is false.

Since the start of the war, MSF has directly treated patients when we have been able to bring supplies into Gaza.

This initiative seems to be a cynical ploy to feign compliance with International Humanitarian Law. In practice, it uses aid as a tool to forcibly displace people as part of what appears to be a broader strategy to ethnically cleanse the Gaza Strip.

It is also used to justify the continuation of a war waged without limits.

Anniebach

What of Hamas, was it ‘that’s naughty, please don’t murder and rape again, it’s not nice ‘,

The UK have proscribed Hamas as a terrorist group and it is a criminal offence to join them.
Hamas is described as criminal where Ben Gvir and Smotrich are government ministers and are breaking humanitarian laws. They should know better.

I have no doubt about that now, tho it has taken a long time to be certain, not to make snap judgements. It's gone too far now.

I'd be interested in feedback from my MSF post. You can donate to MSF. If you choose, there is an opportunity to donate here

msf.org.uk/secure/donate/press/104439?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22579067682&gbraid=0AAAAADn6FKeqStxIzeW9L6FCnscKdrWUJ&gclid=CjwKCAjwr5_CBhBlEiwAzfwYuIIXSiEvt8m6pPyE7p-nGrz14oHIBpmqe4mGFXZfUBCLQoXWn3MFJRoCovIQAvD_BwE

Ben Gvir and Stotrich are members of what was once a well respected government.

Smotrich.

Wyllow3

I have no doubt about that now, tho it has taken a long time to be certain, not to make snap judgements. It's gone too far now.

I'd be interested in feedback from my MSF post. You can donate to MSF. If you choose, there is an opportunity to donate here

msf.org.uk/secure/donate/press/104439?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22579067682&gbraid=0AAAAADn6FKeqStxIzeW9L6FCnscKdrWUJ&gclid=CjwKCAjwr5_CBhBlEiwAzfwYuIIXSiEvt8m6pPyE7p-nGrz14oHIBpmqe4mGFXZfUBCLQoXWn3MFJRoCovIQAvD_BwE

I do donate - have done for years. They do such incredible work.

Quote AGAA4 Tue 10-Jun-25 14:32:47
Anniebach
What of Hamas, was it ‘that’s naughty, please don’t murder and rape again, it’s not nice ‘,
The UK have proscribed Hamas as a terrorist group and it is a criminal offence to join them.
Hamas is described as criminal where Ben Gvir and Smotrich are government ministers and are breaking humanitarian laws. They should know better.

Again, Hamas is given an excuse, there is never criticism of
Hamas, with one exception ‘ 7th October 2023 was evil’ followed by ‘buts’

Whitewavemark2

Wyllow3

I have no doubt about that now, tho it has taken a long time to be certain, not to make snap judgements. It's gone too far now.

I'd be interested in feedback from my MSF post. You can donate to MSF. If you choose, there is an opportunity to donate here

msf.org.uk/secure/donate/press/104439?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22579067682&gbraid=0AAAAADn6FKeqStxIzeW9L6FCnscKdrWUJ&gclid=CjwKCAjwr5_CBhBlEiwAzfwYuIIXSiEvt8m6pPyE7p-nGrz14oHIBpmqe4mGFXZfUBCLQoXWn3MFJRoCovIQAvD_BwE

I do donate - have done for years. They do such incredible work.

Me too, by DD. Just thought others might consider.

Nobody has given Hamas an excuse.
They are deplorable.
Why do you excuse the treatment by Israel of Palestinians?
Do you think genocide is a fair punishment after the Hamas attack?

That was to Anniebach

Quote AGAA4 Tue 10-Jun-25 15:01:06
Nobody has given Hamas an excuse.
They are deplorable.
Why do you excuse the treatment by Israel of Palestinians?
Do you think genocide is a fair punishment after the Hamas attack

I have excused treatment for any sct, there are reasons/explanations but never excuses

I also donate to MSF, a worthy cause.

Wyllow3 thank you for the link to medicin sans frontiers. I have now donated.

Wyllow3

Any group of people deviating from a certain route will expect warning shots.

It needn't be that way, it's manufacturing more fear and control amongst the population. Poor souls driven from pillar to post to even get food then risk being shot at. If tis isnt genocide I dont know what it.

I keep on saying, this is not Gaza it’s the West Bank!

The incident took place in the West Bank, that was what Anniebach was writing about.

AGAA4

The UK has put sanctions on far right Israelis Ben Gvir and Smotrich. I wish more could be done. Two evil men.

What would you like done? It isn’t our country and our government is unlikely to do anything more.

Oreo

The incident took place in the West Bank, that was what Anniebach was writing about.

Oh sorry, Oreo, crossed wires at some point.

Are you donating online? I am so 'old school' that I still use cheques. Will have a look at the link. Thanks

You can telephone them to ask how you can donate

How do I contact MSF UK?
020 7404 6600
You can call us on 020 7404 6600, seven days a week, between 8 am – 10 pm.

BTW, just in case posters think, "oh MSF in Gaza is pro Hamas

I will copy out the last paragraph from their newsletter

"MSF teams have had to leave many facilities, while others continue operating with staff and patients trapped inside, unable to leave safely for hours at a time.

On 7th April, MSF teams and patients found themselves trapped in the MSF field hospital in Deir Al-Balah, after rockets were launched by Hamas in close proximity to the hospital, endangering both patients and staff.

We strongly condemn these actions by the warring parties and call on them to respect and protect healthcare facilities, patients and medical staff."

MSF will treat anyone regardless of who they are. I wouldn't donate if I thought they were biased in any way.

Watching the debate about the Israeli sanctions and Gaza.

Heartened to see all sides of the house supportive of the government.

I also suspect that the government will go further.

I hope so.

Oreo

The incident took place in the West Bank, that was what Anniebach was writing about.

This thread is about Gaza. And this genocide is not an 'incident'. Mind you, neither are Palestinian villages and their inhabitants being violently attacked by illegal settlers, with the IDF protecting them!

MSF is a fantastic organisation, and we give via a direct debit standing order, and extras in emergencies, as now.

Whitewavemark2

Watching the debate about the Israeli sanctions and Gaza.

Heartened to see all sides of the house supportive of the government.

I also suspect that the government will go further.

I hope so.

I didn't know, thank you. will you pass on any results? will there be a vote?

No there is no vote