Boris and Carrie baby number 4!

GG it’s perhaps very different being the wife of someone who has an affair!

The woman who my husband left me for screwed him out of £80,000 and went back to her husband. Me and his kids picked up the pieces.That money would have made a huge difference to my children’s lives. I bear no resentment towards him but her; well, I can’t begin to say what I feel about her. She told me I had been a bad wife, too.Until she had to live with him . She even moved to my village so the affair was conducted a few yards from our family home.

I'm glad you now have a good relationship with your father and his new family but this isn't always the case.
Some children can be badly damaged by abandonment.

We aren't putting the stocks out though are we, we are commenting in the same way as those who say he will be a good dad. He might be a good dad to these children, it is possible, but his previous behaviour was poor and will have impacted all those around him. It is very rare for men like this to change although old age sometimes leads to modifying behaviour. I actually say this as someone who has in the past made bad decisions which hurt people so I am not being holier than thou, but it really isn't behaviour that is good for children.

That was for GG13

LizzieDrip

GG it’s perhaps very different being the wife of someone who has an affair!

Perhaps I was lucky, my parents reconciled and became friends, my mum was very close to one of his wives.

I appreciate that some divorces become very contentious, but many do not.

AGAA4

I'm glad you now have a good relationship with your father and his new family but this isn't always the case.
Some children can be badly damaged by abandonment.

I know, I could easily have been the stroppy eldest daughter, but it would not have got my parents back together.

I chose the path that was best for me and my family.

Casdon

The baby is beautiful, aren’t they always. I’m interested in what people would think if it was Carrie on her third marriage having also had a number of affairs, just had her ninth child, with three conceived before she was married. Would she be congratulated, or condemned for her fecklessness?

Yes Casdon.

When Johnson was PM, I often thought would a woman with a string of extra marital affairs and an unspecified number of children (maybe 7), some out of ‘wedlock’, be ‘acceptable’ as our PM?

Blimey, posters on here call Angela Raynor ‘common’ because she drops her aitches and talks northern! Imagine if she had Johnson’s history.

Apparently it’s OK if you’re:
a) a man
b) an old Etonian

c) went to Oxford

I would assume that most women will protect their children as much as possible from a marriage break up. I know I did, to the detriment of my own health. Johnson’s affair was too high profile for his wife to protect their children. I also think that he was too tied up with his own divorce proceedings to take the covid pandemic seriously when it first emerged.

Magenta8

c) went to Oxford

Yep, forgot that one👍

Casdon if Carrie had been unhappy in her previous marriages to the point she fell in love, had an affair and went on to marry and have children, it is not my position to judge.

Angela Rayner's history is not one to be commended, but this thread is supposedly about a newborn baby, not reliving politicians' peccadilloes.

eazybee

Angela Rayner's history is not one to be commended, but this thread is supposedly about a newborn baby, not reliving politicians' peccadilloes.

I think to a woman we are agreed that the baby is lovely, as babies are.
Did you personally judge Angela Rayner differently though, and would you have congratulated her on her ninth baby? As long as people are consistent in their praise and condemnation, that’s fine with me.

GrannyGravy13

AGAA4

I'm glad you now have a good relationship with your father and his new family but this isn't always the case.
Some children can be badly damaged by abandonment.

I know, I could easily have been the stroppy eldest daughter, but it would not have got my parents back together.

I chose the path that was best for me and my family.

My daughter felt that she’d worked hard at school to make us proud of her only to have her father drag our family name into the mud. She certainly wasn’t a stroppy elder daughter . She was heartbroken.

MayBee you should congratulate yourself on being a strong woman and a good mother🌷

As I said, this post is about a newborn baby and I don't judge Carrie and Boris Johnson. Angela Rayner's behaviour is not relevant here.

eazybee

As I said, this post is about a newborn baby and I don't judge Carrie and Boris Johnson. Angela Rayner's behaviour is not relevant here.

Correct, though the thread was bound to wander.

I think to a woman we are agreed that the baby is lovely.
Correct, and that was the starting point here.

I'm a bit confused though, what Eton and Oxford have to do with it? There are many alumni of both educational estsblishments, who have shown commitment to their spouses, and are exemplary fathers. Just a few examples:

Prince William
David Cameron
Rory Stewart
Eddie Redmayne
Matthew Pinsent
Bill Turnbull
Bear Grylls
And lots more with rock solid marriages.

The comments further up seem irrelevant to me.

As long as people are consistent in their praise and condemnation, that’s fine with me

Agreed Casdon.

I look forward to the warm congratulations on GN when a high profile female MP announces the birth of her 9th child fathered by a variety of men🤔

Whilst I've been gardening this afternoon I've been thinking about this thread and agreeing with posters who said that a baby is always a good thing. A man isn't always a good thing though and Johnson is a questionable choice.

I began wondering what Carrie's parents think of her affair and then marriage to Johnson. I thought how, if she was my daughter I would be very concerned for her becoming involved with someone with his track record of broken homes, affairs and children left for a younger woman.

Coming in from the garden I've looked up Carrie's parents.
She was born as the result of an affair between her parents, who were both married to other people at the time.

It does seem that some people just move in different circles and have completely different standards from those that would have been thought the respectable, stable norm not so long ago.

I have time for some of Boris's politics especially on climate change and animal welfare but my goodness he's proved himself to be a bad husband time and again. His first wife said he was a better ex than he ever was husband.

MayBee70

The woman who my husband left me for screwed him out of £80,000 and went back to her husband. Me and his kids picked up the pieces.That money would have made a huge difference to my children’s lives. I bear no resentment towards him but her; well, I can’t begin to say what I feel about her. She told me I had been a bad wife, too.Until she had to live with him . She even moved to my village so the affair was conducted a few yards from our family home.

MayBee70
It could have been worse. My ex husband’s affair was with one of our employees.
I had been working with her the day I found her hiding in my house. Not the best of days but I’ve had a lot of laughs about it since. I still see her and we get on well.

escaped thank you for posting the beautiful photo of a mum and her newborn.
I will say again congratulations to her and her husband, I wish them well.

It does seem that some people just move in different circles and have completely different standards from those that would have been thought the respectable, stable norm not so long ago

For those lower down the tree a lot has changed very quickly. The top lot always did things their own way with impunity.

'A baby is always a good thing. A man isn't always a good thing though' is probably my favourite sentence ever on GN.

kjmpde

my comments are not about sour grapes due to politics, but in an overpopulated world , are we right to celebrate large families ?

Absolutely! Boris can probably afford this baby but the planet can’t.