Should wearing a burqa be banned in the UK?

Allira in our area it is the permanent travellers camps/sites which are known no go areas.

Nothing to do with burkas, but they do cover their faces with scarves and pulled down baseball hats.

Travellers round here seem to actually travel! 🙂
They then pitch up in town car parks which they take over for a few weeks, which become no-go areas for anyone wanting to park and shop. The spaces for blue badge holders are particularly desirable.

Ladyleftfieldlover

Absolutely not. Honestly, how far would you go? Nuns cover their hair for religious reasons. Would you ban that too? I am so surprised by this question that I can’t formulate a neat answer! We live in a society with free speech, freedom to worship etc., etc.

The women who have to wear the burka do not have the freedom to refuse the wearing of this garment.

Lathyrus3

I just think we need to be asking a different question from the ones about choice.

The salient question is how vital is it to our society that we are able to identify individuals and thereby hold them accountable for their actions?

I think that’s vital, and that any form of face covering. (which is our best initial form of identification) should not be allowed.

Exactly this

I’ve somehow missed this thread, so just read through it. I live in a former mill town with the usual community of people of Pakistani heritage, who follow the Muslim faith. Forty years ago the majority of men from the community wore western dress. The women dressed modestly but burka’s, even hjabs were rare.
These days the men wear traditional dress on high days and holidays. Burkas are much more in number. Many teenage girls are seen off to college wearing skinny jeans, modest but fashionable tops and beautiful hijabs (and expertly applied make up ).
I don’t believe banning the burka is necessary. I would expect women to show their faces at airports, banks, if teaching or working with children or adults.

I posted on the Good Morning thread asking where FGT was as I’d missed her posts. I’m sorry she’s banned and hope it’s a suspension not a ban.
Like so many others, I’ve often not shared some of FGT’s politics but so much more unites than divides us,
She’s always interesting, extremely kind hearted and such fun
Come back FGT

She won’t be able to come back.🙁

Iam64

I’ve somehow missed this thread, so just read through it. I live in a former mill town with the usual community of people of Pakistani heritage, who follow the Muslim faith. Forty years ago the majority of men from the community wore western dress. The women dressed modestly but burka’s, even hjabs were rare.
These days the men wear traditional dress on high days and holidays. Burkas are much more in number. Many teenage girls are seen off to college wearing skinny jeans, modest but fashionable tops and beautiful hijabs (and expertly applied make up ).
I don’t believe banning the burka is necessary. I would expect women to show their faces at airports, banks, if teaching or working with children or adults.

That’s sad, that restriction in women’s clothing is now worse in a Northern town than it was 40 years ago, going backwards it seems.

Yes, we should ban the burka in the UK, how can anyone integrate otherwise.

Iam64

I posted on the Good Morning thread asking where FGT was as I’d missed her posts. I’m sorry she’s banned and hope it’s a suspension not a ban.
Like so many others, I’ve often not shared some of FGT’s politics but so much more unites than divides us,
She’s always interesting, extremely kind hearted and such fun
Come back FGT

I don't agree with much of FGT's politics either but she has never posted anything against the guidelines, as far as I have seen, and nothing that is not widely published in the media.

Let's hope she will be back soon.

Allira

Iam64

I posted on the Good Morning thread asking where FGT was as I’d missed her posts. I’m sorry she’s banned and hope it’s a suspension not a ban.
Like so many others, I’ve often not shared some of FGT’s politics but so much more unites than divides us,
She’s always interesting, extremely kind hearted and such fun
Come back FGT

I don't agree with much of FGT's politics either but she has never posted anything against the guidelines, as far as I have seen, and nothing that is not widely published in the media.

Let's hope she will be back soon.

FGT2 is as well as can be expected, hoping (everything crossed) to be allowed back sometime next month.

I hope to see her back soon. My understanding is the site it loosely moderated. So, posts are only deleted if the report button is pressed and the mods conclude grandnet guidelines have been breached.
The site has lost some posters as a result, posters who added interest and challenge imo. Im not alone in commenting while I often disagreed with FGT I like her sense of humour and determined individual, honest, genuine contributions to news n politics. She’s also very kind.

It’s difficult not to conclude ‘some posters’ are subjected to the report button, Callistemon ? For example

And where's MaizieD?

Allira

And where's MaizieD?

Yes, I was wondering where MaizieD had gone too.

I’m still here. Reading posts daily.

Just very busy and not feeling very argumentative. So, lurking rather than contributing. 😆

FTG was never rude. Whoever reported her is, though. I hope the admin mob didn’t remove her because of her political stance is all. She was a rare and valuable voice for a different point of view.

New to this thread ......
I'm in France and it's refreshing not to see a buqua anywhere. I can't properly explain why, because in London it never bothered me, but here I notice its absence - in a positive way.

Rewind ..... I'm on another planet. My bad mistake. The 40 degrees heat has got to me this weekend.

Grannygravy13 Thank you for the update on FGT. Hoping to see her posting soon.

escaped

Rewind ..... I'm on another planet. My bad mistake. The 40 degrees heat has got to me this weekend.

Fgs ..... that was meant as a WhatsApp for someone, not GN, I got the wrong date arranging something with them! Sorry!

Iam64

I hope to see her back soon. My understanding is the site it loosely moderated. So, posts are only deleted if the report button is pressed and the mods conclude grandnet guidelines have been breached.
The site has lost some posters as a result, posters who added interest and challenge imo. Im not alone in commenting while I often disagreed with FGT I like her sense of humour and determined individual, honest, genuine contributions to news n politics. She’s also very kind.

It’s difficult not to conclude ‘some posters’ are subjected to the report button, Callistemon ? For example

Anyways. I'm also pleased, for several reasons, that FGT might be back soon. I send my good wishes.
We've lost two or three other good posters, one of whom has lost the will "to fight" being reinstated. How sad is that when she isn't even controversial or rude at all? Maybe Iam64 the report button has a cumulative effect for some poor posters, though it never worked for my reporting to get someone off my back, (- a few years ago, not anyone now).

I would just like to add my voice to Iam's post, I do agree, I've always thought FGT has come across as a kind poster with a lovely sense of humour. She often wears her heart on her sleeve and bares her innermost thoughts and worries. Whatever the shade of her politics, GN is diminished without her and various others who have been banished.

I do hope she will be back with us soon, particularly as she is going through a very worrying time.

This is a timely reminder that if you do have a virtual friend on here exchange email addresses.
I was very pleased that I did this with 2 virtual friends on here who were banned.
Also, when a ban happens it’s immediately

FGT was never ever nasty, unlike some on GN who disagreed with her politics 😡

Versailles is a very Catholic area with some families still having as many as 9 children. There was a discussion over lunch this weekend and my DGDs 21 and 18, said that some Catholic girls are now wearing hair coverings to show their religion, that they can do the same as others for their beliefs.
However, i have not seen this myself.