Should wearing a burqa be banned in the UK?

Oreo

Yes, we should ban the burka in the UK, how can anyone integrate otherwise.

Totally agree. Who wants to see that in England?

Well, I'd actually agree with a ban on the burqua as long as we have total tolerance for hair and head covering that does not cover the face.

But I find the 'who want to see 'that' in England bordering on racism and islamophobia.

I don't want to see big fat beer bellies hanging out either! Two extremes!

Yes Claremont.

I want to ban young men riding electric bikes on the pavement with faces completely covered, apart from eyes.

Who wants to see that in England!

Nobody wants to see it in France either, so they banned it there.

The burqha/burka that is, not electric scooter kids or beer bellies 😁

I agree Claremont at 18.31

Also, I regularly see women in burka shopping in our supermarket. They have no problem making friendly eye contact

The bottom line is that France adopts a more pragmatic approach to such an issue. They're not bothered by theoretical sensitivities, so the burqua was banned on grounds of security. I believe the law there makes no reference to Islam nor even to women. It's just a case of this is done in the interests of national security and everyone must comply.

France has Laws about Laïcité- secularity- since the Revolution. State and religion have to be separated, and no-one s supposed to show outward signs of their religious beliefs. This has been used to ban religious clothing, even a simple scarf, in schools and many professions.

The UK still has State and religion, well, CofE, closely linked to Government- despite the country clearly no longer Christian according to polls, and we still have Religioius representatives in the House of Lords. This makes it very difficult to ban other religious observance.

That's the trouble Claremont. I don't know how it would be possible in the UK.

Even if we could ban the burqua in schools in the UK, what teacher would be brave enough to challenge a pupil to tell them to remove it?

I'm sure I remember somewhere that in France the state actually sued a pupil for accusing the teacher of assault or something connected with their burqua???

Claremont

France has Laws about Laïcité- secularity- since the Revolution. State and religion have to be separated, and no-one s supposed to show outward signs of their religious beliefs. This has been used to ban religious clothing, even a simple scarf, in schools and many professions.

The UK still has State and religion, well, CofE, closely linked to Government- despite the country clearly no longer Christian according to polls, and we still have Religioius representatives in the House of Lords. This makes it very difficult to ban other religious observance.

The UK still has State and religion, well, CofE, closely linked to Government

Yes, it's the system in England only, as the Anglican Church is not established in Wales and Welsh bishops do not sit in the House of Lords. The Church of Scotland is established in Scotland but is independent from the State and has no bishops anyway.