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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

Oreo Thu 10-Jul-25 20:49:39

They didn’t just paint them, they poured paint into the engines.
They have done a raft of other things up to now.Groups don’t get labelled as terrorists over nothing.
The government have acted swiftly before they gear up to do even worse.If they do anything more, hope they like prison food.

Oreo Thu 10-Jul-25 20:50:52

Casdon

Isn’t red the peace colour for aircraft? I see red helicopters very regularly on the Beacons, rescuing people.

This group aren’t about peace.

Allira Thu 10-Jul-25 21:06:54

Casdon

Isn’t red the peace colour for aircraft? I see red helicopters very regularly on the Beacons, rescuing people.

No, it's Code Red - Emergency.

David49 Thu 10-Jul-25 21:15:04

Spray painting is on thing but throwing paint into a jet engine is serious,, it means the whole engine has to be taken out and overhauled. That costs mega bucks, plain stupidit6 they deserve everything they get.

Allira Thu 10-Jul-25 21:16:55

Agreed.

Casdon Thu 10-Jul-25 21:40:21

Allira

Casdon

Isn’t red the peace colour for aircraft? I see red helicopters very regularly on the Beacons, rescuing people.

No, it's Code Red - Emergency.

Ah, that makes sense - I did wonder why so many were red.

Iam64 Thu 10-Jul-25 21:55:00

Palestine. action has been proscribed as a terrorist organisation.
They shouldn’t have been able to get in to cause such damage to jet engines. I don’t believe Ycvette Cooper or Starmer took the decision without legal advice and much consideration

imaround Sun 13-Jul-25 05:24:05

Remember back when California was on fire and everyone said Trump needs to hurry and get in office so these people could get help? And I insisted that wasn't the case, that instead he had been saying he was going to gut FEMA and it would devastate disaster relief efforts and people would die?

hmm

Aely Mon 14-Jul-25 14:57:38

You were right, Imaround. He has gutted everything except his bank balance.

imaround Mon 14-Jul-25 17:24:52

The good news is MAGA is turning on him right now. The bad news is it is because he won't release the Epstein files, not because he is a bad person who is kidnapping citizens off the street.

Whatever it takes, I suppose. But it doesn't address the root cause of the issues, racism, bigotry and xenophobia, that caused him to get elected in the first place.

Maremia Mon 14-Jul-25 18:37:28

Yes, imaround, whatever it takes.

imaround Wed 16-Jul-25 16:33:20

MAGA is mad and turning on him. This is his response.

I've said since January, we can't do anything to stop him without them, we just had to wait for that thing that made them mad. I didn't expect Epstein files to be the one thing, but it makes sense. These are Q-anon followers, they lifted him up based on the belief that the Deep State was trafficking children. He took that belief and ran, but is now saying that it was all a hoax.

Let's hope today's post makes them even more mad. smile

MaizieD Wed 16-Jul-25 18:53:12

Thanks, Imaround (I was a bit worried that we hadn't heard from you for while)

This is the man who our ambassador to the US says has a 'kernel of truth' in what he says. 😱

imaround Thu 17-Jul-25 01:08:13

I am busy with a large event next week for the organization I volunteer at. I am up to my ears in stuff to do.

I will always make time to see his base turn on him though. I thought he would get them back under his thumb by now, but I am seeing a lot of comments questioning everything now, including his lies about the 2020 election. He added fuel to the fire today. smile

Any time I hear of people supporting him after everything he has done, I always ask what is in it for them. Power? Money? Permission to act like the worst version of themselves in public?

There is always a reason why someone says they don't care about, and refuse to see, the human rights violations, breaking of laws, upending the constitution and funneling taxpayer money to billionaires. Why would anyone want that in their country? hmm

imaround Thu 17-Jul-25 18:31:35

MAGA is still mad about the Epstein files and he keeps doubling down gaslighting his supporters.

I was expecting them to all fall into line, like they have for the last 10 years, but they seem to be escalating.

They are talking about midterm elections, which means we should start seeing him find ways to stop midterm elections. If they don't, it is going to be a blood bath for Republicans.

Maremia Thu 17-Jul-25 18:33:40

A wee glimmer of hope.

Casdon Thu 17-Jul-25 19:08:15

Meanwhile there is major concern in African countries about deportation, this is the headline on CNN today, and it makes scary reading.
edition.cnn.com/2025/07/17/africa/africa-eswatini-trump-us-deportees-intl

David49 Thu 17-Jul-25 20:57:59

An absolute monarchy certainly, I visited a few years ago, a very different impression after SA. Cross the border from the threatening squalor and shanties of South Africa to a rather nice friendly country, poor, yes but welcoming.
South Africa should put its own house in order before it criticizes others, it’s the most corrupt, threatening country I’ve visited.

As for Eswantini taking Trumps cast outs, I’m sure they are being paid well, it’s their choice.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 17-Jul-25 21:20:44

imaround

MAGA is still mad about the Epstein files and he keeps doubling down gaslighting his supporters.

I was expecting them to all fall into line, like they have for the last 10 years, but they seem to be escalating.

They are talking about midterm elections, which means we should start seeing him find ways to stop midterm elections. If they don't, it is going to be a blood bath for Republicans.

Yes makes for interesting reading.

With luck the chink in his armour will widen into a gaping hole!

Someone said last week I think it was that Trump had very likely reached the zenith of his power snd it was all the way down hilll from there 🤞

imaround Fri 18-Jul-25 04:54:53

I haven't fully caught up yet, but he was apparently seen by doctors due to swelling in his legs. Surprising that it was reported.

And he is suing Rupert Murdoch and Wall Street Journal. Something about an article he doesn't like. It would be the best thing ever if he takes down the people who made him. Fox News says are numbered anyhow after the defamation verdict and him losing the lawsuit with his children. When he dies, I hope his kids dismantle it all.

He is also over on Truth Social talking about himself in 3rd person. Which could mean he finally went over the edge or he is incapacitated and his handlers aren't very good at Social Media. Either is plausible.

imaround Fri 18-Jul-25 05:07:58

Just found this from Heather Cox Richardson. An interesting take indeed. Sorry, it is long.

July 16, 2025 (Wednesday)

After years of covering Donald J. Trump, I am used to seeing stories that would have sunk any other president simply fade away as he hammers on to some new unprecedented action that dominates the news. So I am surprised by what appears to be the staying power of the recent Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

That Trump is panicked by the threat of the release of material concerning convicted sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein seems very clear. After the backlash against the Department of Justice’s decision not to release any more information and to reiterate that Epstein died by suicide, Trump tried first to downplay Epstein’s importance and convince people to move on. When that blew up, he posted a long screed on social media last Saturday saying the files were written by Democrats and other supposed enemies of his.

This morning, Trump posted another long message on social media blaming “Radical Left Democrats” for creating the story of the Epstein files. “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax,” he wrote, and then he turned on his own supporters for demanding the administration release the files. “[M]y PAST supporters have bought into this ’bullsh*t,’ hook, line, and sinker. They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years. I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Country’s history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Tellingly, Trump compared “the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax” to “the Russia, Russia, Russia Scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillary Clinton’s big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election.” But of course, the ties between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russian operatives and Russian interference in the 2016 election were not a hoax: they were well established both by Special Counsel Robert Mueller—a Republican—and by the Republican-dominated Senate Intelligence Committee.

Ever since his campaign’s ties to Russia first came to light, Trump has hammered on the idea that the investigation was a hoax, not just to distance himself from potentially illegal behavior but also because if he could get his followers to reject the truth and accept his lies about what had happened, they would be psychologically committed to him. Although thirty-four people and three companies were indicted or pleaded guilty in the attack on the 2016 election or its cover-up, Trump loyalists believed Trump was a victim of a “deep state” run by Democrats.

Trump had successfully marketed his own narrative over the truth, and his supporters would continue to believe him rather than those calling him out. From then on, whenever in danger of being called out, he harked back to “Russia, Russia, Russia” and “the Russian hoax” to rally supporters to him.

Once again, he is reaching back to “Russia, Russia, Russia” to reinforce his ability to control the narrative. But this time it does not appear to be working.

As Jay Kuo outlined in The Status Kuo today, Trump owes his 2024 victory to QAnon followers, who believe a cabal of Democratic lawmakers, rich elites, and Hollywood film stars are sex trafficking—and even eating—children. PRRI, a nonpartisan nonprofit organization that researches religion, culture, and politics, estimated that in 2024, about 19% of Americans believed in QAnon. CNN chief data analyst Harry Enten noted yesterday that QAnon supporters preferred Trump to Vice President Kamala Harris in 2024 by 61 points.

More broadly, Enten noted that Trump’s political career has depended on conspiracy theorists, from his 2016 support from those who believed Trump’s “birther” charges that President Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States, to his 2024 primary support from those who believed President Joe Biden did not win the 2020 presidential election legitimately.

Those supporters followed Trump because they believed he was leading a secret charge against those child sex traffickers. Now that his administration says it will not release any more information about Epstein’s files, they appear to feel betrayed.

Trump seems to be in full panic mode over the idea that information from the Epstein investigation might come to light. He and Epstein were friends, frequently photographed together in the years of Epstein’s operation. After turning on his former supporters on social media, Trump continued his attacks in an Oval Office meeting today, reiterating his claims that the Epstein files were written by Democrats.

But then he continued to attack his own supporters, saying that “stupid Republicans,” “foolish Republicans,” and “stupid people” had fallen for the Democrats’ Epstein hoax and were demanding the release of the files.

Billionaire Elon Musk, Trump’s sidekick in the White House before the two fell out, has been hammering on the issue to his 222 million followers on his social media platform X. “He should just release the files and point out which part is the hoax,” Musk wrote.

Trump’s political success has stemmed in large part from his projection of dominance, and perhaps part of supporters’ willingness to cut ties to him comes from his recent behavior, which projects confusion. On Saturday, at the FIFA Club World Cup trophy ceremony, Trump seemed to miss the signal that he should leave the stage as the winning team celebrated, and had to be maneuvered behind the players.

Yesterday he fell asleep on stage at the Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit. At the same event, Trump told what CNN fact-checker Daniel Dale called “an especially odd imaginary tale,” claiming that his uncle, a MIT professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, had taught Ted Kaczynski, better known as the Unabomber. Trump recounted a conversation with his uncle about Kaczynski, but in fact Kaczynski didn’t go to MIT, and Trump’s uncle John died more than a decade before Kaczynski became famous, so Trump and his uncle could not have identified him as the Unabomber. Today, Trump called chair of the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell a “terrible Fed chair” and added: “I was surprised he was appointed.”

Trump was the president who appointed him.

Finally, today Trump’s Department of Justice fired longtime employee Maurene Comey, who had prosecuted Jeffrey Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell. To bring things full circle, Maurene Comey is the daughter of James Comey, the Republican former director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, whom Trump fired for refusing to drop the FBI investigation into ties between Trump’s 2016 campaign and Russian operatives.

imaround Fri 18-Jul-25 05:10:57

Here is his post.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 18-Jul-25 07:39:17

Excellent update, imaround: thank you.
I understand that Ms Maxwell is making a few comments on what she might know...
In other news, large posters of Mr Trump and Mr Epstein together have appeared in London ahead of the proposed visit.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jul-25 09:31:52

I think that photos identified bruising on his hands and perhaps the information was released after that?

Otherwise said his doctor “he is in excellent health”

🙄

Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jul-25 09:34:50

Apparently swelling legs because of rubbish veins is very common in people over 70?

Can’t be all that common in the U.K. as I’ve never heard of it, but sAying that I’m not very up on matters medical.